Possible Crash Cover Up: SHELBY GT350

[8WOOD]

yeah, I'm taking it into another dealer to do the warranty work. there are clips that are not connected at all. I use to own a nissan gtr... no problems with it. Fitment was great. and for 20k more you get a 10 second 1/4 mile with a warranty

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[crs2879]

I looked at the S197 Mustangs and most of them don't have any body fitment issues.
I think Ford dropped the ball on the S550's.

Not really defending Ford but you do get more than you pay for. A loaded V6 Camry is in the same cost range of a Mustang GT. Depending on your perspective, the GT is a screaming deal.

 

[thehygienist]

Considering all the other engineering that went into the car, I would've thought that Ford could engineer body panels, so in a $60,000 vehicle, I don't have to compromise, because it's, ya know, a friggin' body panel. I would have thought that on a regular production Mustang there would be similar issues, but not on something Ford points to and says, that is something special and represents the best of the line. When I go to a car show, I'd like to think my new car isn't already booger'd up from the factory and somebody else's $60,000 vehicle is A-OK.

I think this stuff reflects on the dealer network as well, because I think Ford is putting a squeeze on its dealers to the point that they don't do the up front work to correct these issues, and also make them scrounge for ADM's when they can get ADM's. If the dealers felt like they got a fair markup, they'd have no need for ADM's. TrueCar seems to have made an impact.

I have a Honda Pilot and they quoted $250 to change 2 filters; a cabin filter and engine air filter. Changed both myself for about $30. So it appears many of the auto manufacturers are forcing dealers to accept low margins and push their profits to service as a gouge on the service/warranty work. Just my impression of what's going on.

BTW, I did a TrueCar search through my bank, and three dealers called within a minute. The TrueCar price was listed at $61,300 and yet all were offering ADM's from $8.5K to $20K. So much for TrueCar on the Shelby.

 

[***GT350***]

if the next generation of GT350 is still like this, i'm going to either pay more for an import or just drive a prius.

 

[crs2879]

Considering all the other engineering that went into the car, I would've thought that Ford could engineer body panels, so in a $60,000 vehicle, I don't have to compromise, because it's, ya know, a friggin' body panel. I would have thought that on a regular production Mustang there would be similar issues, but not on something Ford points to and says, that is something special and represents the best of the line. When I go to a car show, I'd like to think my new car isn't already booger'd up from the factory and somebody else's $60,000 vehicle is A-OK.

I think this stuff reflects on the dealer network as well, because I think Ford is putting a squeeze on its dealers to the point that they don't do the up front work to correct these issues, and also make them scrounge for ADM's when they can get ADM's. If the dealers felt like they got a fair markup, they'd have no need for ADM's. TrueCar seems to have made an impact.

I have a Honda Pilot and they quoted $250 to change 2 filters; a cabin filter and engine air filter. Changed both myself for about $30. So it appears many of the auto manufacturers are forcing dealers to accept low margins and push their profits to service as a gouge on the service/warranty work. Just my impression of what's going on.

BTW, I did a TrueCar search through my bank, and three dealers called within a minute. The TrueCar price was listed at $61,300 and yet all were offering ADM's from $8.5K to $20K. So much for TrueCar on the Shelby.

The GT350 engine is, as least for the time being, limited to a relatively low volume model. The development cost to Ford was likely astronomical. The interior is pretty much base GT, except for the seats. Ford put the money in the parts you don't see. $60K is relative when you can find pickup trucks on the same lot as a GT350 with higher MSRP.

 

[krt22]

From what I read on another problem the rear bumper sag is now known by ford and due to how the rear diffuser/under tray attaches. It essentially is pulling the bumper down

 

[50 Deep]

Looks normal to me

 

[thehygienist]

From what I read on another problem the rear bumper sag is now known by ford and due to how the rear diffuser/under tray attaches. It essentially is pulling the bumper down

That's an explanation that makes sense. Too bad it wasn't recognized and fixed for the 16's and 17's.

 

[MARFOR]

Is anyone tracking if the regular Mustang folks are seeing a similar issue? If not then it must be a unique issue with the 350's regardless the fact the bodies should generally be the same from the doors back.

 

[crazyfish]

This seems to be normal in Ford's standards? However it is a shame that their quality control is the worst I have ever seen on any vehicle especially on the gt350.

I am going through the same thing and Ford has wiped their hands clean on this on my car and has totally blamed bad fit, finish, paint, gaps and so on directly on to the dealer.

I have been going round and round on this with Ford and the dealer now for 11 weeks or so. Just atrocious support, customer service and so on. I am no longer in love with my car mostly because of ford and the dealerships lack of interaction and communication and definitely no resolution still to this point.

Maybe ford would be better off building these cars in Mexico where a person making $7-8 an hour would do better work than the current $30 an hour plus people who put my car together. Also when ford moves everything to Mexico maybe those customer support reps will lose their jobs too. I was told "i'm sorry for your problems but there is nothing I can do" so many times by Ford's phone reps it goes synominus with their new slogan coming " sorry, no speak a English"

just disgusting ford allows vehicles with that lack of quality to be sold.

Sorry to hear that. Good luck on your repair

 

[Voodooo]

Here's what pisses me off. I used to be a journeyman tool and die maker. One of our accounts were ford. You have no idea how tough ford is with their Q1 rating.
Yet they expect the consumer to accept this bullshit? Some people might say " the GT 350 is a bargain!" Which it is at a performance standpoint. But the panel fit and finish suck ass! Imagine this!
It's a fking world class car now! How does the rest of the world see this as Q1 quality?
Why can I buy a $23000 ford transit connect or a $28000 fusion or a $56000 f150 and they all have "world class" quality but a $60000 gt350 doesn't? My work van transit connect was made in Turkey for God sake and it had better panel fitment!
Ever see the tv show "how it's made"?
Look at the USA assembly line workers here in the USA vs the rest of the world. Ours look like ex cons! Not to mention they assembled the mustang like a ex con did it also.

 

[Voodooo]

This seems to be normal in Ford's standards? However it is a shame that their quality control is the worst I have ever seen on any vehicle especially on the gt350.

I am going through the same thing and Ford has wiped their hands clean on this on my car and has totally blamed bad fit, finish, paint, gaps and so on directly on to the dealer.

I have been going round and round on this with Ford and the dealer now for 11 weeks or so. Just atrocious support, customer service and so on. I am no longer in love with my car mostly because of ford and the dealerships lack of interaction and communication and definitely no resolution still to this point.

Maybe ford would be better off building these cars in Mexico where a person making $7-8 an hour would do better work than the current $30 an hour plus people who put my car together. Also when ford moves everything to Mexico maybe those customer support reps will lose their jobs too. I was told "i'm sorry for your problems but there is nothing I can do" so many times by Ford's phone reps it goes synominus with their new slogan coming " sorry, no speak a English"

just disgusting ford allows vehicles with that lack of quality to be sold.

Sorry to hear that. Good luck on your repair

Amen brother!
Lucky my family owns a body shop and I fixed all my own problems because I figured if flat rock couldn't do it right no way in hell im having a dumb ass dealer employee do it.

 

[Voodooo]

Front bumper tabs

 

[Voodooo]

One of two

 

[Voodooo]

Two of two

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