When 526 is not Enough

[Bingo13]

Has anyone had the chance to independently test this tune? How's the driveability? Is it possible to revert back to stock for warranty purposes?

I have the 93 tune on a stock car. I did not do a before or after dyno run and will not worry about it until I add headers and CAI shortly. That said, the 93 tune improves overall driveability from idle to redline, with the car really waking up in the 3000~5000rpm range. Based on current street driving and my last track event, I have no reason to doubt their numbers. In fact, I ran 100 octane at the track and the car ran even better, as others have noted.

Livernois included a 91 tune, 93 tune and a stock tune. Flashing is easy and in five minutes you can be back to the stock tune. The tuners in my area have not worked with the GT350s yet, and all recommended Livernois until they have time to properly test and tune this car. I think it was money well spent and I would do it again.

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[Livernois Motorsports]

I have the 93 tune on a stock car. I did not do a before or after dyno run and will not worry about it until I add headers and CAI shortly. That said, the 93 tune improves overall driveability from idle to redline, with the car really waking up in the 3000~5000rpm range. Based on current street driving and my last track event, I have no reason to doubt their numbers. In fact, I ran 100 octane at the track and the car ran even better, as others have noted.

Livernois included a 91 tune, 93 tune and a stock tune. Flashing is easy and in five minutes you can be back to the stock tune. The tuners in my area have not worked with the GT350s yet, and all recommended Livernois until they have time to properly test and tune this car. I think it was money well spent and I would do it again.

Thank you for your review, and taking time to answer Thomas' questions!

I did not want to interject when he specifically asked for you guys to reply. Our MyCal tuner will always hold onto and use your factory tuning file as a default. Even in the even that you were to experience an error during the tuning process. If there is an error that takes place the tuner will tell you that before you can go any further the tuner has to revert to the factory settings.

 

[VoodooThomas]

I have the 93 tune on a stock car. I did not do a before or after dyno run and will not worry about it until I add headers and CAI shortly. That said, the 93 tune improves overall driveability from idle to redline, with the car really waking up in the 3000~5000rpm range. Based on current street driving and my last track event, I have no reason to doubt their numbers. In fact, I ran 100 octane at the track and the car ran even better, as others have noted.

Livernois included a 91 tune, 93 tune and a stock tune. Flashing is easy and in five minutes you can be back to the stock tune. The tuners in my area have not worked with the GT350s yet, and all recommended Livernois until they have time to properly test and tune this car. I think it was money well spent and I would do it again.

Thanks for the input, I'm leaning towards this tune since it seems to make more power than the others. I'm just wanting to see independent dynos before I pull the trigger on it. I'm in Texas too so I'll be using the 93 tune. For now I'll only be adding the tune with no bolt ons so your current set up is what I'm after. If you get it dyno'd before your bolt ons I'll send you some whataburger!

 

[VoodooThomas]

Thank you for your review, and taking time to answer Thomas' questions!

I did not want to interject when he specifically asked for you guys to reply. Our MyCal tuner will always hold onto and use your factory tuning file as a default. Even in the even that you were to experience an error during the tuning process. If there is an error that takes place the tuner will tell you that before you can go any further the tuner has to revert to the factory settings.

Thanks for the input and waiting

 

[Darkane]

I have the 93 tune on a stock car. I did not do a before or after dyno run and will not worry about it until I add headers and CAI shortly. That said, the 93 tune improves overall driveability from idle to redline, with the car really waking up in the 3000~5000rpm range. Based on current street driving and my last track event, I have no reason to doubt their numbers. In fact, I ran 100 octane at the track and the car ran even better, as others have noted.

Livernois included a 91 tune, 93 tune and a stock tune. Flashing is easy and in five minutes you can be back to the stock tune. The tuners in my area have not worked with the GT350s yet, and all recommended Livernois until they have time to properly test and tune this car. I think it was money well spent and I would do it again.

I've read somewhere in these forums (I'm pretty sure) that the new ford system is capable of reading flashed ECUs at the dealer level even when reverted back to stock. I'd love to hear otherwise and that's the only thing holding me back from a tune.

Also a stock voodoo loves race fuel and will see 15-25whp over 91octance. So when tracking or going for a spirited drive drop some 98octane and go.

33whp gain on pump sounds awesome though.

 

[VoodooThomas]

I've read somewhere in these forums (I'm pretty sure) that the new ford system is capable of reading flashed ECUs at the dealer level even when reverted back to stock. I'd love to hear otherwise and that's the only thing holding me back from a tune.

Also a stock voodoo loves race fuel and will see 15-25whp over 91octance. So when tracking or going for a spirited drive drop some 98octane and go.

33whp gain on pump sounds awesome though.

I think you are right. If they dig deep enough they can tell it's been flashed before. I have to give that a little more thought too but I'm thinking I'll end up risking it.

 

[Myshelby3425]

They can def see when it's been flashed.. Someone needs to come out with a piggy back kind of tuner like the JB system used with BMW which isn't traceable.

 

[Darkane]

They can def see when it's been flashed.. Someone needs to come out with a piggy back kind of tuner like the JB system used with BMW which isn't traceable.

I was thinking - since the flash is encoded in the factory ecm, is it possible to buy an additional ecm to have flashed. I know the original ecm is matched to the car.. Or actually is it?

During service just throw the factory one in. Is this even possible?

 

[65sohc]

I have the 93 tune on a stock car. I did not do a before or after dyno run and will not worry about it until I add headers and CAI shortly. That said, the 93 tune improves overall driveability from idle to redline, with the car really waking up in the 3000~5000rpm range. Based on current street driving and my last track event, I have no reason to doubt their numbers. In fact, I ran 100 octane at the track and the car ran even better, as others have noted.

Livernois included a 91 tune, 93 tune and a stock tune. Flashing is easy and in five minutes you can be back to the stock tune. The tuners in my area have not worked with the GT350s yet, and all recommended Livernois until they have time to properly test and tune this car. I think it was money well spent and I would do it again.

You weren't interested in the flex tune?

 

[GT P-TREE]

I thought Ford said the car made power all the way to redline?

 

[Voodooo]

There are times that clients do not give us permission to promote their builds. This is particularly prevalent with brand new cars, niche' platforms or cars that will see any type of "competition". We have 3 builds ATM that will walk all over the 1008RWHP S197 that we posted about last week, BUT those clients do not wish to have their cars documented. We have to respect those wishes.

As for our GT350/GT350R support, it is safe to say that all of you can expect to make ~500/400 wheel with our tuning and relatively light modding!

I pulled 529rwhp on one dyno pull with ARH Long tubes, catless X pipe and stock mufflers with stock CAI running Sunoco 260 GT 100 octane on a Lund tune.
What can you offer me over Lund? I'm local to you guys and I'm tired of the data logging. I just ordered the Borla Atak mufflers and should have them next week sometime.

 

[Voodooo]

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I know it's a different dyno, different car etc. I know you can't compare two different everything's. Here's my thing. I prototyped the ARH Long tubes for Nick on my GT350. At the time my car had just over 100 miles on it. On the dyno I ran the same tank of 93 from the baseline to the header and Lund tune. I also baselined 454 rwhp 100% stock and as everyone knows I pulled 511rwhp on a lean 6000 rpm shut down. All on a stock CAI. I honestly think the aftermarket CAI is a waste of money. Both days that I did my dyno pulls the temps and air quality were as close as doing it on the same day. I'm interested in what if any gains your tune will offer me.

 

[65sohc]

I know it's a different dyno, different car etc. I know you can't compare two different everything's. Here's my thing. I prototyped the ARH Long tubes for Nick on my GT350. At the time my car had just over 100 miles on it. On the dyno I ran the same tank of 93 from the baseline to the header and Lund tune. I also baselined 454 rwhp 100% stock and as everyone knows I pulled 511rwhp on a lean 6000 rpm shut down. All on a stock CAI. I honestly think the aftermarket CAI is a waste of money. Both days that I did my dyno pulls the temps and air quality were as close as doing it on the same day. I'm interested in what if any gains your tune will offer me.

I doubt you'll find any tuner who isn't going to say he is the best, or put differently, that another tuner offers something he doesn't. Lund told me he has access to the same software and Ford files as Livernois. In the end ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice.

 

[Myshelby3425]

I pulled 529rwhp on one dyno pull with ARH Long tubes, catless X pipe and stock mufflers with stock CAI running Sunoco 260 GT 100 octane on a Lund tune.
What can you offer me over Lund? I'm local to you guys and I'm tired of the data logging. I just ordered the Borla Atak mufflers and should have them next week sometime.

I'm sure they can dial your car in much better than one of their generic tunes if your local.

 

[Bingo13]

You weren't interested in the flex tune?

No, I like keeping things simple at the track and on the street. It is much easier for me to stay with the 93 tune and use race fuel (100) on track days, which using the non-scientific butt dyno, was noticeable coming out the corners. I know the FT tune would develop more power, but am not convinced the tunes nor car in general is setup properly at this time.

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