2017 GT350 Pics...Surprises....

[xt6wagon]

The Inline 6, from an engineering standpoint, is superior to the V6 and H6 due to harmonics. With the appropriate firing order, an I6 eliminates both primary and secondary mechanical vibrations, resulting in a significantly smoother engine. This comes with the downside, of course, of a much longer engine, making for packaging issues. V6s often require balance shafts or mass dampers attached to the crankshaft to dampen some of the intrinsic vibrations they produce.

H6 is completely balanced naturally. H4 has 3rd order issues, which is why Subaru motors "wobble", most noticeable when starting or shutting off the motor.

I6 is prefered in industrial applications because its cheap and easy. When you are machining a large engine block, having everything in single line, and a single plain means far less cost. Cheaper and easier to deal with the exhaust and intake too.

I6's dont work in most cars as engine length is a problem, and engine width is less so. The cost issues between inline and V are clear though when you look at 4 cylinder engines. How many V4's have been used vs I4.

H engines are a bit of a special case as you can pull some money back out by way of needing little block strength compared to other configurations. A high power H4 doesn't need a heavy reinforced block with strong main caps to keep the crank from leaving. It has only 2 cylinders a side and its pushing into a whole other engine block. Still more expensive than a I4, but there is places to claw back the difference. Low power ones also need less cooling, as tons of surface area is there assisting.

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[Variance]

H6 is completely balanced naturally. H4 has 3rd order issues, which is why Subaru motors "wobble", most noticeable when starting or shutting off the motor.

You got me there; I remembered that the H12 configuration was balanced, but had forgotten that H6s also had both primary and secondary balance, as well.

 

[Three_quid]

Do we know if these come with Apple CarPlay yet?

 

[mattlqx]

Do we know if these come with Apple CarPlay yet?

Supposedly and surprisingly, yes they do. MY17 Fusions are shipping with Sync 3 v2.0 and all the literature on Ford's site says all MY17 vehicles do.

Updates for MY16 are still slated for "late 2016".

 

[Voodooo]

I4s and I5s, yes; the I4 is actually one of the least-balanced engine configurations in wide-spread automotive use today.

An I6 has primary balance because the front 3 and rear 3 cylinders are essentially mirror-images, moving together, but 360 degrees out-of-phase. Secondary balance is attained via the crankshaft, with the 6 pins oriented in 120 degree intervals. This allows the secondary forces from piston motion to mostly cancel out. There are still some sixth-order forces present, but these have a generally negligible impact on overall vibration.

I6s see widespread use on large, diesel-powered freight ships because this inherent balance scales well for extremely high-displacement applications.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But in a car standpoint the V6 is a better choice over a I6. In a heavy equipment, truck, industrial etc application the I6 wins hands down. A I6 will definitely out perform a V6. The ford 4.9, jeep 4.0, Cummings I6 are great engines no doubt. But in a performance car the V6 is a better choice for packaging and handling.

 

[MadCow]

Well that's where you're wrong. They do make v6 diesels. The main reason for a inline 6 is stroke and torque at a lower rpm. Inline engines do vibrate. Look at any 4,5,6 cylinder they all vibrate.

Yes, Sorry, I meant industrial and large diesels like +10L. Usually when space isn't an issue they never are really going to put a V6 over an I6. Matter of fact the worlds largest engine, used for ships, comes only in an inline configuration with 6-14 cylinders. I only said I6's are balanced and better than V6's. V12's are also a great configuration, but they have so many more parts.

 

[Voodooo]

What I find interesting is on ford website the weights changed slightly.
On the 2016 track pack the weight is 3791
On the 2016 tech pack the weight is 3798
On the 2016 base GT350R the weight is 3655
On the 2016 GT350R elec weight is 3703

On the 2017 GT350 3760
On the 2017 base GT350R the weight is 3662
On the 2017 GT350R elec weight is TBD

I wonder if the 2017 GT350 weight of 3760 is a nominal weight. I can't see where they could shed 38 plus pounds without removing something. And on the 2017 base GT350R 7 pounds heavier.

 

[Variance]

What I find interesting is on ford website the weights changed slightly.
On the 2016 track pack the weight is 3791
On the 2016 tech pack the weight is 3798
On the 2016 base GT350R the weight is 3655
On the 2016 GT350R elec weight is 3703

On the 2017 GT350 3760
On the 2017 base GT350R the weight is 3662
On the 2017 GT350R elec weight is TBD

I wonder if the 2017 GT350 weight of 3760 is a nominal weight. I can't see where they could shed 38 plus pounds without removing something. And on the 2017 base GT350R 7 pounds heavier.

That certainly is interesting. In theory, shouldn't the 2016 track pack and 2017 base weigh exactly the same, as well as the 2016 and 2017 GT350R?

 

[Voodooo]

That certainly is interesting. In theory, shouldn't the 2016 track pack and 2017 base weigh exactly the same, as well as the 2016 and 2017 GT350R?

That's my thought also.

 

[montreal ponies]

Wonder how much '16 base cars weight ?

 

[Voodooo]

Wonder how much '16 base cars weight ?

2016 base is 3760

 

[montreal ponies]

2016 base is 3760

U sure ? If base '17 weights in at 3760 lbs and it has coolers , '16 base must weight less then ! :shrug:

 

[Hi-PO Stang]

I can hardly wait until owners weigh their 2017 GT350 Mustangs. I would not be surprised if the 2017 is lighter.

 

[stinger556]

I agree. NA motors dont really stand a chance in the performance department.

Are you kidding? The new Viper outruns the new Z06, 13/14 GT500, ZL1, GT350 and even ZR1.

Not even mentioning the Ferrari 458 Speciale, McLaren F1, Ferrari LaFerrari, Lexus LF-A, Porsche 911 GT3 RS, etc ,etc. All N/A cars and unmatched.

Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Shift]

Are you kidding? The new Viper outruns the new Z06, 13/14 GT500, ZL1, GT350 and even ZR1.

Not even mentioning the Ferrari 458 Speciale, McLaren F1, Ferrari LaFerrari, Lexus LF-A, Porsche 911 GT3 RS, etc ,etc. All N/A cars and unmatched.

Thanks for the laugh.

Viper has a huge motor, and its being discontinued. All those cars are unmatched in what way? Performance or passion and soul? Where is the McLaren 675LT/P1, Ferrari 488, Porsche 918, Pagani Huayra, Koenigsegg 1:1, etc that you so conveniently left out to bolster your own argument?

Im a huge NA fan, and most of the cars you listed are one of my top supercars, but at the same time, I am not blind.

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