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I guess we have a big age gap. I'm 44. My dream cars where gt350, gt500, Cobras, bosses, fairlane thunderbolts etc.:cheers::ford:
Your generations have priced most of the real versions of those far out of reach of the common man.

I'm 33 and have dabbled in imports and domestics, turbocharged vehicles and now naturally aspirated. I had a Ferrari F40 poster on one wall and at GT 40 poster on the other. Having driven a Cobra I'd never own one but I would like a GT-40 replica with a 5.2, or even a 3.5l ecoboost. Most of the cars I would dream about I could never own regardless. I grew up without a cell phone in my hand but had one in high school. I remember .99 cent gas but pay over 3 for premium now. I'd say the enthusiasts are still out there they are just spread across different groups, as there weren't rallycross and drifting and such as there are now. When you older guys were young there weren't as many performance car choices as there are now. It thins the heard a bit but I'd say the young automotive enthusiasts are alive and well I've got a pretty good grasp as I have friends in the 18yr-60yr old range and 2 14yr old brothers that live with me and don't have much interest in cars but do enjoy riding in mine and asking questions.

The only constant is change.
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I would like to see Voodoo post a thread with pictures of all his vehicles. Be cool to see the picture of the 1947 Cab Over truck.
 

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I would like to see Voodoo post a thread with pictures of all his vehicles. Be cool to see the picture of the 1947 Cab Over truck.
If we had tapatalk I could. If you like send me your email or I can text them to you. The cab over needs restored though.
 

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The V6 ecoboost is fine and dandy. I understand why Ford used it and it payed off, but its nothing Ford couldn't have done with a boosted V8 or probably even a turbo i4. There's a reason the boosted cars in GTE are limited to 4.0L. And for a production car with no rule book I'll take the turbo V8 (and likely more displacement) over the turbo V6.
 

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I highly doubt we'll see a ecoboost V8. But I'd love one!!
 

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I highly doubt we'll see a ecoboost V8. But I'd love one!!
There are rumors about the GT500 having an ecoboost v8. Important to note they are just rumors. I can't see it happening when both the GT and Raptor will have the 3.5 liter ecoboost.
 

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There are rumors about the GT500 having an ecoboost v8. Important to note they are just rumors. I can't see it happening when both the GT and Raptor will have the 3.5 liter ecoboost.
I hear rumors also. And doubt of a V8 also.
 

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The V6 ecoboost is fine and dandy. I understand why Ford used it and it payed off, but its nothing Ford couldn't have done with a boosted V8 or probably even a turbo i4. There's a reason the boosted cars in GTE are limited to 4.0L. And for a production car with no rule book I'll take the turbo V8 (and likely more displacement) over the turbo V6.
It appears the TTV6 had to be reigned in with a power reduction and added weight so that the V9 Ferrari was competitive... I'm not sure I see your point as to how a more powerful engine, albeit a V6, is not a plus?

Have you seen the values for the GNX lately?
 

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It appears the TTV6 had to be reigned in with a power reduction and added weight so that the V9 Ferrari was competitive... I'm not sure I see your point as to how a more powerful engine, albeit a V6, is not a plus?

Have you seen the values for the GNX lately?

The Ferrari was also hit with some restrictions to slow it down. But with the displacement limits its all the same. 4.0 with boost is 4.0 is with boost no matter what cylinder configuration you use. More cylinders would probably be more effective as displacement increases. My only point is this. All things equal the bigger displacement engine will make more power or make equal power easier. As for engine configurations I think a inline 6 is superior to a V6 if size and packaging aren't important.

But I am happy Ford won and this will be great marketing for the EB. I would be interested to know how much similarity there is between the Racing EB and the production version.
 

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How do you think a inline 6 gas engine is better then a v6? What about a box engine?
 

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The Ferrari was also hit with some restrictions to slow it down. But with the displacement limits its all the same. 4.0 with boost is 4.0 is with boost no matter what cylinder configuration you use. More cylinders would probably be more effective as displacement increases. My only point is this. All things equal the bigger displacement engine will make more power or make equal power easier. As for engine configurations I think a inline 6 is superior to a V6 if size and packaging aren't important.

But I am happy Ford won and this will be great marketing for the EB. I would be interested to know how much similarity there is between the Racing EB and the production version.
as a general rule for a given engine size, more cylinders is more HP and lower MPG. Head flow being the primary driver for more HP, friction losses being the primary driver for lower MPG.

I'd love to see an ecoboost V12 out of the 2.7L V6 (or 3L version). Sadly crazy stuff like that won't happen anymore.
 

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How do you think a inline 6 gas engine is better then a v6? What about a box engine?
The Inline 6, from an engineering standpoint, is superior to the V6 and H6 due to harmonics. With the appropriate firing order, an I6 eliminates both primary and secondary mechanical vibrations, resulting in a significantly smoother engine. This comes with the downside, of course, of a much longer engine, making for packaging issues. V6s often require balance shafts or mass dampers attached to the crankshaft to dampen some of the intrinsic vibrations they produce.
 

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How do you think a inline 6 gas engine is better then a v6? What about a box engine?
Balance and split pin cranks are some reasons for me personally. But when I look at industrial applications and diesels I don't think I have seen one V6. They spends tons of money so there must be some reasoning.

Flat motors and Boxer motors also seem good from a balance stand point and they sit low. Don't know why they aren't used more but there may be a reason.
 

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Balance and split pin cranks are some reasons for me personally. But when I look at industrial applications and diesels I don't think I have seen one V6. They spends tons of money so there must be some reasoning.

Flat motors and Boxer motors also seem good from a balance stand point and they sit low. Don't know why they aren't used more but there may be a reason.
Well that's where you're wrong. They do make v6 diesels. The main reason for a inline 6 is stroke and torque at a lower rpm. Inline engines do vibrate. Look at any 4,5,6 cylinder they all vibrate.
 

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Well that's where you're wrong. They do make v6 diesels. The main reason for a inline 6 is stroke and torque at a lower rpm. Inline engines do vibrate. Look at any 4,5,6 cylinder they all vibrate.
I4s and I5s, yes; the I4 is actually one of the least-balanced engine configurations in wide-spread automotive use today.

An I6 has primary balance because the front 3 and rear 3 cylinders are essentially mirror-images, moving together, but 360 degrees out-of-phase. Secondary balance is attained via the crankshaft, with the 6 pins oriented in 120 degree intervals. This allows the secondary forces from piston motion to mostly cancel out. There are still some sixth-order forces present, but these have a generally negligible impact on overall vibration.

I6s see widespread use on large, diesel-powered freight ships because this inherent balance scales well for extremely high-displacement applications.
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