Whipple's Flight Control settings for those who have it

[Jmeo]

Hi, I just received my Flight Control cal and thought I would create a thread for all of us to share our setting and experiences with them. Maybe after we get a bunch of people commenting I can create an Excel file to keep things organized.

I thought we should keep editing our individual posts with results after trial and error and hopefully this would keep the information easily found.

These are the factors I thought we should compare. Let me know if you think something should be added or deleted from this list.

Anyway, these are exciting times for us Whipple guys & gals so let's share our experiences!



Jmeo's car (I will update everything once I load cal)

6 Speed MT-82
132mm TB
Enclosed Airbox
10 Rib Pulley Kit
72# Injectors
170º Thermostat
Original ICP (for now)
Kooks LT with "green" cats
McLeod RXT & Billet FW
Stock DS
3.31 gears with Torsen
MPSS 305/35/19 rear tires (759 RevsPerMile)

Configuration:

Octane Adjust: Off
Profile Learning: Off

Guardian:

Enabled: Off
CHT Limiting: On
FRP Limiting: Off
Knock Limiting: Off
Injector DC Limiting: On
Overload Limiting: On

Flight Control:

Overall: 0%
1'st Gear: 15%
2'nd Gear: 10%
3'rd Gear: 5%
4'th Gear: 0%
5'th Gear: 0%
6'th Gear: 0%


Enable: Off
RPM Limit: Max
Timing: 0.0

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[Dat Boi Kumar]

I run all the Guardians off when im racing except Inj DC. RPM Limit Max ON

 

[Roh92cp]

I run all the Guardians off when im racing except Inj DC. RPM Limit Max ON

What is the injector duty cycle limit, how does it work?

 

[SC_Ruby]

Thanks Jaime!! As soon as I get mine in and loaded I'll post my settings up to add to the list :cheers:

 

[Dat Boi Kumar]

Pretty much the computer will flip before it goes lean

 

[Roh92cp]

What is the injector duty cycle limit, how does it work?

Pretty much the computer will flip before it goes lean

You mean the computer will reduce power when injector duty cycl max is met?

 

[gsxr1300]

My initial flash settings
6 Speed MT-82
132mm TB
MMR Balancer
72# Injectors
170º Thermostat
Original ICP (for now)
Kooks LT with "green" cats
carbon DS

Configuration:

Octane Adjust: Off
Profile Learning: Off
RPM Limit: Off
Timing: Normal

Guardian:

Enabled: On
CHT Limiting: On
Knock Limiting: On
Injector DC Limiting: On
Overload Limiting : On

Flight Control:

Overall: What %
1'st Gear: -25%
2'nd Gear: -25 %
3'rd Gear: -15 %
4'th Gear: 0 %
5'th Gear: 0 %
6'th Gear: 0 %

 

[Jmeo]

Thanks for sharing Jason. Your setting look good and most likely what I am going to start off with. I look forward to hearing your results when you get to work tomorrow

 

[gsxr1300]

The flash seemed longer than previous cals and at one point every error msg available flashes on the dash.

 

[Roh92cp]

Is their a help menu or explanation of what some of these functions do and how and when to use them. I've read the flight control thread that Dustin started but some are not listed like.

Injector duty cycle limiting??

Overload limiting??

 

[SC_Ruby]

Just received my new cal today. As soon as I upload it I'll post my servings as well :cheers:

 

[Whipple SC]

You mean the computer will reduce power when injector duty cycl max is met?

The PCM will not limit power when the injector is near max. As there is a small variance in injectors, DC, fuel psi, in some cases it may just clip 100rpm too soon and it might have 2-3% left.

 

[Whipple SC]

Is their a help menu or explanation of what some of these functions do and how and when to use them. I've read the flight control thread that Dustin started but some are not listed like.

Injector duty cycle limiting??

Overload limiting??

Working on one, haven't had enough time, been a busy few weeks.

Overload is that you can't overload the system, meaning if you put a 2" pulley on, which would make 25psi (estimating), the PCM would not allow it to get there. It will essentially limit it to the 3.25" pulley (estimate).

 

[Roh92cp]

The PCM will not limit power when the injector is near max. As there is a small variance in injectors, DC, fuel psi, in some cases it may just clip 100rpm too soon and it might have 2-3% left.

Sorry I guess I'm hard headed, but I still don't get what your saying. Could you use an example of why someone would use it.

Working on one, haven't had enough time, been a busy few weeks.

Overload is that you can't overload the system, meaning if you put a 2" pulley on, which would make 25psi (estimating), the PCM would not allow it to get there. It will essentially limit it to the 3.25" pulley (estimate).

So in this case it clips the amount of MAF or airflow/load that can be achieved and over that max it starts to reduce throttle angle? Is their any other reason to use this other than putting a too small of a pulley on?

 

[Whipple SC]

Sorry I guess I'm hard headed, but I still don't get what your saying. Could you use an example of why someone would use it.







So in this case it clips the amount of MAF or airflow/load that can be achieved and over that max it starts to reduce throttle angle? Is their any other reason to use this other than putting a too small of a pulley on?

Running 58's and making 695rw and you want 700rw but fuel psi is dropping and the calculated pw is clipping so yo can't rev anymore. Turn it off, monitor afr and you will have enough fuel. We have a X% buffer between calculated max pw so there is usually a touch more capacity.

If your running a 3.25", in a cold climate, sea level, making a lot of power with a degraded fuel pump, this will limit capacity.


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