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Poll-I'm putting a clutch assist spring back in, and this is why

Why are you putting in softer spring?


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I am curious why some are putting different/softer springs back in after removing OEM spring. Please explain "other" votes, thanks!
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I already voted. You should know why by what I've said about it. Is there some good reason why you wouldn't put a softer spring in?
 
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I already voted. You should know why by what I've said about it. Is there some good reason why you wouldn't put a softer spring in?
Everything to lose, nothing to gain. Back on topic...why specifically don't you like the extra play? I'm trying to get to the heart of your concern.
 

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Really ... what's there to lose? Take the play out and still have a pedal that feels like there's really no spring assistance. What's the problem with that?

If people don't want pedal play at the top then they have the soft spring option to get rid of it. You tell me why having a soft spring in there makes it "everything to lose".

If people don't like the pedal slop - which many don't like - then they can put a soft spring in there, get rid of the slop and still have a pedal that gives them total clutch feel. As others have said, it's a win-win.

Even if there would never ever be any long term negatives from have no spring, I want a soft spring in there to take out the slop at the top because I don't like it. My decision, my choice ... period. People can do what ever the hell they want to ... doesn't matter to me, but it does seem to matter to you for some unknown reason - care to explain that?
 
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I just asked you a question, that for whatever reason, you don't seem to want to answer. I'll be more specific; What is so detrimental about the "slop"? Does it affect pedal feel, clutch performance, supposed clutch wear? I don't want to put words in your mouth. Again I am sincerely curious what is motivating yours, and others, desire for a different spring.
 

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Like I said ... I don't like pedal slop. Putting in a softer spring to get rid of the slop and still make the clutch pedal essentially feel like there's no spring is an ideal setup for me, and still gives the clutch feel back. And also, if by some remote chance, there ever could be long term harm with no spring, then I'd never have to wonder or worry about that - just another side benefit IMO. But my primary reason is to get rid of the top slop. I think the majority of others who want the softer spring is for the same basic reasons I do.

To me, there is zero negative reason to use a soft spring instead of no spring. Just what do you think is so negative about using a soft spring?
 

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I didn't like the slop but I put it back in because I felt the pedal felt dead without it. The travel was so short and it had no feeling.
 
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I want a soft spring in there to take out the slop at the top because I don't like it.
I'll try one more time, then I'll let it go...WHY don't you like it? You have to have a reason.

Just what do you think is so negative about using a soft spring?
Right now it's unknown. Very little evidence of what a different spring will do. My fear is another spring will lose the benefits of the clutch feel w/o the OEM spring and add some, if not all, of the spongy, disconnected feel that came with the OEM spring. Like I said in the other thread, I am patiently waiting for honest reviews on these springs. Here to fore there have been none.
 

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Guess I am lucky, mine seems to have no slop. That spring is staying out.
 

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I'll try one more time, then I'll let it go...WHY don't you like it? You have to have a reason.
What part of post #8 don't you get?

Right now it's unknown. Very little evidence of what a different spring will do. My fear is another spring will lose the benefits of the clutch feel w/o the OEM spring and add some, if not all, of the spongy, disconnected feel that came with the OEM spring. Like I said in the other thread, I am patiently waiting for honest reviews on these springs. Here to fore there have been none.
You said in post #5 about using a soft spring: "Everything to lose, nothing to gain."

But now you don't have anything to base anything on. If you don't want a spring in there then that's great ... leave it out. But don't make it sound like using a soft spring to get rid of the pedal slop is going to make the pedal feel like it did with the OEM spring and there will be "everything to lose, nothing to gain", because that's not gonna be the case.
 

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Guess I am lucky, mine seems to have no slop. That spring is staying out.
Yes, it's strange that some guys have zero pedal slop, but most others have some ranging from a little to quite a bit.
 
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[MENTION=14534]GT Pony[/MENTION] Which is why I'm kinda pushing you. Why are you sold out on these springs when you really don't know if they are going to be the cure all that you are claiming them to be?
 

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My fear is another spring will lose the benefits of the clutch feel w/o the OEM spring and add some, if not all, of the spongy, disconnected feel that came with the OEM spring. Like I said in the other thread, I am patiently waiting for honest reviews on these springs. Here to fore there have been none.
We'll have to see what others think ... but the handful that have tried a softer spring seem to have good things to say and think the clutch feel is still there like it was with no spring.
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