MY 2017 Mustang announcements, when ?

[BGM]

Any thoughts on the possibility of the EcoBoost getting a HP bump? Looks like the recently announced Focus RS has a 350 HP 2.3L Ecoboost, so I wonder if that would be a possibility for the Mustang or if the Focus RS alterations are the reason for that car's high price. Also looks like Sync 3 will be standard in 2017 across all Ford models.

I'm interested in essentially a base Ecoboost, and wouldn't want to get one until after winter anyways at this point, so both those items would compel me to wait a couple months.

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[Hi-PO Stang]

I sure would think Ford would bump the horsepower up on the Ecoboost to encourage the owners of the 2015 Ecoboost to trade up for more horsepower.

 

[Sal33n]

I will be attending the Detroit auto show charity preview this Friday. Not holding my breath but hoping to find out a little info that might be available. It's hit and miss cuz the auto show reps don't always know much.

 

[50hhh]

I felt compelled to throw in my 2cents on this thread enough to join the forum...
2017 Mustang speculation matters to me because of the following:
I am in market for V8 MT performance vehicle for under 50K new. I almost had myself convinced to go with Chevy SS sedan, but I am now leaning toward newer tech architecture and accept that I have to give up a roomy back seat as a compromise (giving up on speculation there will EVER be another V8 MT sedan offered below $50K again).

Here is my scenario (I have test driven both competitors):

Mustang GT Premium with PP MSRP configured the way I'd want it: $44,415
Camaro 2SS 6MT MSRP configured the way I'd want it: $46,660
MSRP difference: $2245

Camaro positive differentiators: dual mode exhaust, Mag ride, HUD, broader power curve, rev match novelty, feels more buttoned down in suspension and steering responsiveness, heated steering wheel

Mustang positive differentiators: price, interior comfort, visibility, adaptive cruise, superior brakes (6 piston brembos stand alone 3175 option on Camaro over and above MSRP above).

Car will be year-rounder with plan to buy winter wheels/tires (still need to research TPMS "reset" requirements which can be an annoyance if dealer intervention required to prevent TPMS malfunction light every time wheel/tire swap happens). Wife's car has heated wheel - decided this is now a "must have" for year round driver; but Camaro claustrophobic ergonomics suck enough that I'm going to wait and see what (if anything) happens to 2017 Mustang to answer the Camaro. Heated wheel *might* be enough to get me. MRC hand-down from GT350 along with that wheel, and I'm about there for sure. A bump in hp might be nice, but not necessary. 5-spoke non black wheel PP option might be nice, but not necessary. HUD and dual mode exhaust might be nice, but not necessary. All those "nice but not necessary's" definitely would not be necessary if the heated wheel and MRC additions would still keep MSRP $1500 or more less than Camaro....

So, I know Ford has heated wheels in other cars...a relatively simple premium package addition for 2017 *might* get my sale. MRC is already option on GT350...a relatively simple "requires both premium and GT performance package" add on option for 2017 along with heated wheel *really might* get my sale. If Ford does nothing, I'm leaning toward hope/idea I'd get acclimatized to the close quarters inside the Camaro.

How are you getting a mag ride/dual exhaust on a loaded 2ss for 46k? I priced that exact car with the 6 pistons and its like $52300.

 

[1320']

How are you getting a mag ride/dual exhaust on a loaded 2ss for 46k? I priced that exact car with the 6 pistons and its like $52300.

A 2SS with MRC and NPP has a MSRP of $44,885...how did YOU get it over 52K?

 

[Blk2015GT]

$44,500 is nearly every single option checked on the Mustang you can get on a GTPP.

The Camaro is going to be over $46k by what you mentioned, I can tell you that easily. You're closer to $50k than $46k (49k really). So you're already talking near $5,000 difference.


And you get get X-plan on the Mustang with a few tricks around here- EAA and Msutang club that are $50 to join. I did it as many many people here did.

You'll be at $41,700 in instead of $44,500 for $50 cost for a fully optioned GTPP on X-plan. So you're really talking about nearly a $7,500-8,000 difference- not pocket change.

 

[50hhh]

A 2SS with MRC and NPP has a MSRP of $44,885...how did YOU get it over 52K?

Lol no....

Just adding the Navigation package that the mustang comes with is a 500$ option the 2SS doesn't have standard, and an auto increases this price 2000$. I just built one as you can see with minimal premium options, not even including color matched hood vents. Why do people feel inclined to lie about how utterly expensive these new Camaros are? Just adding the brake package takes this car over 50k. A 2SS with auto trans mag ride, dual mode exhaust, and performance brakes is over 52k as you can see below.

 

[Spartan]

Lol no....

Just adding the Navigation package that the mustang comes with is a 500$ option the 2SS doesn't have standard, and an auto increases this price 2000$. I just built one as you can see with minimal premium options, not even including color matched hood vents. Why do people feel inclined to lie about how utterly expensive these new Camaros are? Just adding the brake package takes this car over 50k. A 2SS with auto trans mag ride, dual mode exhaust, and performance brakes is over 52k as you can see below.

Because you aren't building it apples to apples. You're throwing a ton of stuff on it it doesn't need and isn't comparable to the GTPP. The Camaro also doesnt need the brake package because it's standard 4 pot brembos are far then sufficient and have been shown so.

I mean you added the extra dealer wheels for 2k...rflol. Come on dude...at least be honest in trying to do a comparison.

Take off the $2k dealer wheels you added and the $3.1k brakes the car doesnt need and there is 5K you just threw on to make the price balloon to support your argument.

Nice try though...

 

[50hhh]

Because you aren't building it apples to apples. You're throwing a ton of stuff on it it doesn't need and isn't comparable to the GTPP. The Camaro also doesnt need the brake package because it's standard 4 pot brembos are far then sufficient and have been shown so.

I mean you added the extra dealer wheels for 2k...rflol. Come on dude...at least be honest in trying to do a comparison.

Take off the $2k dealer wheels you added and the $3.1k brakes the car doesnt need and there is 5K you just threw on to make the price balloon to support your argument.

Nice try though...

Can you read? The premium wheels are 2k added cost. We are talking about premium cars here. This is a direct comparable car to a PP Premium GT and its 47k without the auto trans and 6 pistons. And no the 4 pistons are NOT on par with the 6. What "ton of stuff" am I throwing on there? It has a manual trans, mag ride, and duel mode exhaust, no extra interior options, paint options or anything. Even if you take off the premium wheels the car is still over 50k and as you can clearly see in the screen shots the options I selected are basic premium options..

 

[Chameleon]

52 for a loaded ss. lol

 

[Kevin08]

$52k and it doesn't even have wheels on it! And a gutted interior!

 

[50hhh]

$52k and it doesn't even have wheels on it! And a gutted interior!

Its 52k WITH the premium wheels, Just over 50k without the premium wheels. Not sure why people want to lie in favor of the Camaro. A fully loaded Premium GT with PP is topped out at 45k.

 

[Spartan]

Can you read? The premium wheels are 2k added cost. We are talking about premium cars here. This is a direct comparable car to a PP Premium GT and its 47k without the auto trans and 6 pistons. And no the 4 pistons are NOT on par with the 6. What "ton of stuff" am I throwing on there? It has a manual trans, mag ride, and duel mode exhaust, no extra interior options, paint options or anything. Even if you take off the premium wheels the car is still over 50k.

Um....your screen shots show a 1LT.

How about starting with a 2SS....

 

[50hhh]

Um....your screen shots show a 1LT.

How about starting with a 2SS....

It doesn't change even when you select the 2SS. Even if it started as a 1LT(cheaper package BTW) the added options would price out the same. Just face it a premium Camaro is 50k at the minimum with the performance brakes and no premium wheels.

 

[1320']

He didn't WANT an A8 car...he specified..

"2SS with MRC and NPP" as he tested it and configured they way he wanted was $46,660..

A 2SS with MRC and NPP has the MSRP of $44,885...so he added something but didn't specify what.

He didn't say he wanted the 6 pot Brembos..he said it was a standalone option.

You added a bunch of stuff he didn't specify "to make it equal"...so you intentionally manipulated the MSRP on the Camaro to better fit your argument, which is not fair.

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