ZL1 vs GT350 head to head next week!

[Hack]

It didn't start off looking like that. In the Instagram pics the splitter looks ok. Something might have happened, bashed a curb too hard perhaps. I've not seen the video, so I'm only speculating based in the IG pics.

Could be. Or if the splitter wasn't installed properly it will start to sag as the car is driven, especially at high speed.

I wonder how fast the lap time for the GT350R would have been if the splitter wasn't messed up.

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[Stuntman]

Could be. Or if the splitter wasn't installed properly it will start to sag as the car is driven, especially at high speed.

I wonder how fast the lap time for the GT350R would have been if the splitter wasn't messed up.

If it was sagging down like that it surely wasn't creating the high pressure zone and downforce on top of the splitter. That could make the 350R understeer more and hurt it's performance. It's all speculation but it's definitely possible.

 

[spiller]

Settle down guys, I think the point to take away is that the R is only marginally slower (4 tenths is physically probably the length of the splitter!) with far less power and torque. It's the car to have, subjective lap times aside.

 

[Redline8250]

The only reason why the zl1 is quicker is strictly because of power. Not handling. I agree.
That blower belt snaps it's just another camaro.

 

[Grimace427]

Settle down guys, I think the point to take away is that the R is only marginally slower (4 tenths is physically probably the length of the splitter!) with far less power and torque. It's the car to have, subjective lap times aside.

4 tenths of a second crossing the line at about 100+mph(147+ feet per second) is roughly 58 feet or several car lengths.

 

[Hack]

LOL!!!!! Just to clarify, Quick stands for acceleration times, Fast stands for MPH/speed as in the 1/4 mi trap spd. Funny how stupid people are, saying 0-60 mph in 3.5 sec is FAST.... LOL, That is a measurement of quickness, not speed folks. 60 mph is "fast", 3.5 sec is darn "quick". Anyone get it yet??? Just like when talking Torque, it's a form of measurement, and when one says: ft-lbs, I know they don't know what they're talking about... You can't put feet into pounds. However, you can put pounds into X amount of feet. Racing Professionals and Engineers say lb-ft, while tuners, weekend racers, etc and some not so common magazines say ft-lbs, lol. Anyway, the new mustang vs ZL, that'll be a "no contest" match up.... The last 2010-2015 580 hp ZL got slayed by the 2013-14 GT500 in acceleration and braking, and was close to tying the ZL in handling. The old ZL was more on par with the 2010-2012 GT500 540-550 hp. They both ran 113-115 in the 1/4 mi and 12.4-12.6 in the 1/4... And 0-60 mph in 4.3-4.5 sec. A 2012 convertible ZL1 auto did 12.8@ 112 mph. The extra 170 lbs hurt it. So, the newer 2013-14 GT500 averaged 3.9 sec 0-60 and quickest/fastest 1/4: 11.6@126... average 1/4's were 12.1@123... The new Cobra/GT500 Cobra will leave the new ZL in the dust from an acceleration standpoint again. How? Well the new ZL is still over 4050 lbs wet... The last GT500 was 3875 lbs... The GT350R like in this test vs the ZL, is 3680 lbs... The new mustang supercar will be around 3775-3850 lbs and have over 730 hp, plus the same 10 spd auto option and "manga-doodle" suspension. A few close friends in FMC have told me this new mustang will be more of a threat to the C7 ZR1, than the new Z0... however, the Z0 will get the 10 spd tranny by 2018 for 2019 Z06's.... It MIGHT be in the new ZR1 too.

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[02gtnh]

Settle down guys, I think the point to take away is that the R is only marginally slower (4 tenths is physically probably the length of the splitter!) with far less power and torque. It's the car to have, subjective lap times aside.

Actually it's about 3 car lengths per lap or 58'.:cheers:

 

[02gtnh]

4 tenths of a second crossing the line at about 100+mph(147+ feet per second) is roughly 58 feet or several car lengths.

Beat me to it.

 

[topfinadv]

I guess first things first. Number 1 is that the R cannot be had probably for less than 15 to 25 ADM which would make it more expensive than the ZL1. What about the non-R GT350 vs the ZL1. Would people trade the non R for it. I myself have been thinking about it. I have 2500 on my Shelby and been offered 55 to swap.

 

[Zombo]

I guess first things first. Number 1 is that the R cannot be had probably for less than 15 to 25 ADM which would make it more expensive than the ZL1. What about the non-R GT350 vs the ZL1. Would people trade the non R for it. I myself have been thinking about it. I have 2500 on my Shelby and been offered 55 to swap.

No.

Like Car & Driver said: "If Porsche's GT team built a Mustang, it would be the GT350". Enough said.

 

[DrumReaper]

I guess first things first. Number 1 is that the R cannot be had probably for less than 15 to 25 ADM which would make it more expensive than the ZL1. What about the non-R GT350 vs the ZL1. Would people trade the non R for it. I myself have been thinking about it. I have 2500 on my Shelby and been offered 55 to swap.

Let's see... you can actually loose less money with your 350, but lose your arse in a ZL1... makes sense.

If you're in it for just the fast factor, by all means, do so. If you're in it for the aesthetics factor the ZL1 will disappoint highly.

 

[Epiphany]

First page of the thread.... that image

That splitter is definitely unseated and hanging down in the shot on the first page. You can see the notches clearly in the fascia flange that receive the splitter.

 

[btown93]

That splitter is definitely unseated and hanging down in the shot on the first page. You can see the notches clearly in the fascia flange that receive the splitter.

With the aero handicap of a loose splitter, is it plausible that the lap time could have been improved by say oh .39 seconds if it had been correctly installed? :lol::ford:

 

[nastang87xx]

LOL!!!!! Just to clarify, Quick stands for acceleration times, Fast stands for MPH/speed as in the 1/4 mi trap spd. Funny how stupid people are, saying 0-60 mph in 3.5 sec is FAST.... LOL, That is a measurement of quickness, not speed folks. 60 mph is "fast", 3.5 sec is darn "quick". Anyone get it yet??? Just like when talking Torque, it's a form of measurement, and when one says: ft-lbs, I know they don't know what they're talking about... You can't put feet into pounds. However, you can put pounds into X amount of feet. Racing Professionals and Engineers say lb-ft, while tuners, weekend racers, etc and some not so common magazines say ft-lbs, lol. Anyway, the new mustang vs ZL, that'll be a "no contest" match up.... The last 2010-2015 580 hp ZL got slayed by the 2013-14 GT500 in acceleration and braking, and was close to tying the ZL in handling. The old ZL was more on par with the 2010-2012 GT500 540-550 hp. They both ran 113-115 in the 1/4 mi and 12.4-12.6 in the 1/4... And 0-60 mph in 4.3-4.5 sec. A 2012 convertible ZL1 auto did 12.8@ 112 mph. The extra 170 lbs hurt it. So, the newer 2013-14 GT500 averaged 3.9 sec 0-60 and quickest/fastest 1/4: 11.6@126... average 1/4's were 12.1@123... The new Cobra/GT500 Cobra will leave the new ZL in the dust from an acceleration standpoint again. How? Well the new ZL is still over 4050 lbs wet... The last GT500 was 3875 lbs... The GT350R like in this test vs the ZL, is 3680 lbs... The new mustang supercar will be around 3775-3850 lbs and have over 730 hp, plus the same 10 spd auto option and "manga-doodle" suspension. A few close friends in FMC have told me this new mustang will be more of a threat to the C7 ZR1, than the new Z0... however, the Z0 will get the 10 spd tranny by 2018 for 2019 Z06's.... It MIGHT be in the new ZR1 too.

You must be a hoot to go have a beer with.

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And while your definition of fast and quick are accurate, I would recommend slowly taking a deep breath. Then exhale slowly. Now count to 5......good. Now relax and feel the zen. Feel the peace inside you...feel the air enter your lungs and free your soul......

 

[Epiphany]

Probably the most anticipated head to head since the GT350/R came out and of all things the splitter is out of whack and front and center. I hope somebody deep within Ford at the engineering level, is facepalming.

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