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^agree!Erm, going by focus st turbos, replacement turbos will be somewhat costly. Main culprit is the headifold ford uses. Unless someone can make an adapter that somehow retains the stock tubine outlet, compressor inlet AND outlet, these turbos will be pricey. Otherwise, you have a unique turbine housing due to the headifold driving cost, or you have a cheaper turbo which requires an adapter for the headifold along with a new downpipe and intake. Probably coolant and oil routing too.
Expect $2500-$3000 for turbos, unless someone can show me a cheap focus example.
Can someone explain what is so special about the housing on the turbo pictured above? Doesn't look like anything special.Erm, going by focus st turbos, replacement turbos will be somewhat costly. Main culprit is the headifold ford uses. Unless someone can make an adapter that somehow retains the stock tubine outlet, compressor inlet AND outlet, these turbos will be pricey. Otherwise, you have a unique turbine housing due to the headifold driving cost, or you have a cheaper turbo which requires an adapter for the headifold along with a new downpipe and intake. Probably coolant and oil routing too.
Expect $2500-$3000 for turbos, unless someone can show me a cheap focus example.
The housing is unique to Ford cylinder heads, as it has a gooseneck to mate to the cylinder head along with having a unique twinscroll design fed by certain cylinders. Borg, Precision, Honeywell etc don't make their turbos with that housing as an option. Meaning that aftermarket turbos require a new mold for those turbine castings to be made in. Any of these turbos will only be able to work with the 2.3L Mustang (and possibly the Focus RS) which will mean any inventory a supplier purchases/makes, can only be sold to a handful of vehicles. Voila, price increase.Can someone explain what is so special about the housing on the turbo pictured above? Doesn't look like anything special.
My first turbo kit was a T25 flange mated to a crx hf exhaust manifold. Used an adapter plate. Would this really be much more complicated than that?
I'm not saying you're wrong in being annoyed/upset by the turbo prices, it just is what it is. I haven't seen a cheap Focus ST turbo yet (sub $1500) so I want people to know about what's coming.I'll make my own adapter before spending that. That's nothing but greedy shops... No, it requires nothing more than an adapter flange
This isn't a focus st. We're talking about the car with the biggest aftermarket out there. If a manufacturer wanted to sell them at a reasonable price they could with the mustang just on sheer volume alone. The focus st is a niche car.The housing is unique to Ford cylinder heads, as it has a gooseneck to mate to the cylinder head along with having a unique twinscroll design fed by certain cylinders. Borg, Precision, Honeywell etc don't make their turbos with that housing as an option. Meaning that aftermarket turbos require a new mold for those turbine castings to be made in. Any of these turbos will only be able to work with the 2.3L Mustang (and possibly the Focus RS) which will mean any inventory a supplier purchases/makes, can only be sold to a handful of vehicles. Voila, price increase.
I'm not saying you're wrong in being annoyed/upset by the turbo prices, it just is what it is. I haven't seen a cheap Focus ST turbo yet (sub $1500) so I want people to know about what's coming.
This isn't a focus st. We're talking about the car with the biggest aftermarket out there. If a manufacturer wanted to sell them at a reasonable price they could with the mustang just on sheer volume alone. The focus st is a niche car.
You're going to be right. Not because they can't sell it for cheaper. They know there are plenty of guys willing to pay the 2.5/3k price tag so why sell it for less. The only mod I am planning on is a tuner. The bang for the buck is off the charts on the tune. I'm not even buying a tune right now because I know the price will go down eventually or they'll end up on sale. I don't have an interest in spending big money for mods so I'll just live vicariously through you guys. :cheers:True, but the exhaust systems are already more expensive than last generations. The superchargers on the GTs are more expensive as well. This is the largest aftermarket, but also one of the most lucrative.
Time will tell. I'm storing away around $3000 for my turbo swap, if I'm wrong then yay more money.
You're shooting pretty high there :eyebulge:Yep, I think you are looking at $2500 if you go the replacement route or $3500-4000 for something like what MAP is doing. I am eagerly awaiting MAP's release