Lund or Livernois

gtmiller1001 · Oct 15, 2015

Cool. Another "which tuner is better" thread. In for results as this is definitely a new topic.

beefcake · Oct 15, 2015

There is a reason Lund wouldn't respond in a tuning thread and that is because they don't sponsor or advertise on any forums.

Us vendors can help answer questions that you have, but Lund is hard at work doing what they do best. Tuning.

The quickest cars in the 1/4 mile, standing mile, the quickest ecoboost cars, etc..., s550, s197, 03/04 cobra, etc..

As far as "bugs" in the tuning. The sheer volume of cars that Lund tunes, you are always going to have some that may have an issue here or there. Could be something that was missed in the calibration, that is easily corrected, or it could be an install issue.

that is the great thing about having the ability to log with the ngauge.

MoneyPit#53 · Oct 15, 2015

beefcake said:
There is a reason Lund wouldn't respond in a tuning thread and that is because they don't sponsor or advertise on any forums.

Us vendors can help answer questions that you have, but Lund is hard at work doing what they do best. Tuning.

The quickest cars in the 1/4 mile, standing mile, the quickest ecoboost cars, etc..., s550, s197, 03/04 cobra, etc..

As far as "bugs" in the tuning. The sheer volume of cars that Lund tunes, you are always going to have some that may have an issue here or there. Could be something that was missed in the calibration, that is easily corrected, or it could be an install issue.

that is the great thing about having the ability to log with the ngauge.

Terry,

I get all that. I agree that being able to data log is important and should be done when running anything more than a bolt on tune IMO.

beefcake · Oct 15, 2015

MoneyPit#53 said:
Sorry Jared but I would have to say that logic is pretty flawed in my opinion. The fastest tunes does not equal the best, plain and simple. It means his tune is on some of the fastest cars that hold some records. As important as the tune is on a car, it's not the ONLY thing that makes the car fast. You could have a tune that advances timing to an unsafe amount, could have less than desirable driving characteristics, that doesn't make it "better", it just makes it faster.

All I'm trying to get at is that, if you can't explain "why" something is better than something else, then you shouldn't say it.

Normally I wouldn't reply to things like these but it seems like anytime a members asks a question asking which one is better than the other, a vendor pops in 3 seconds later stating that they have the best parts and to call them to get hooked. They never explain "why", the parts they are pushing are "better".

typically lund always tunes on the conservative end, not the aggressive end

MoneyPit#53 · Oct 15, 2015

gtmiller1001 said:
Cool. Another "which tuner is better" thread. In for results as this is definitely a new topic.

Well maybe you can enlighten all of us on what separates all the tuners from one another in specific...........I've been on forums for the better part of 15 years and I have NEVER seen an actual tuner come out and say what separates himself from the rest of the crowd.

Some businesses make it easier for the consumer to decide which not to choose (Bama, BBR, etc..)

MoneyPit#53 · Oct 15, 2015

beefcake said:
typically lund always tunes on the conservative end, not the aggressive end

Yes, I know this from running his tune in the past. Timing and AF could have been far more aggressive than it was.

Livernois Motorsports · Oct 15, 2015

We can say what separates us quite plainly.

We do our own tuning, for ourselves.
We use our own software, nobody elses.
We are not a tuner vendor.

Livernois Motorsports · Oct 15, 2015

rainier446 said:
What new updates? I've been eyeballing livernois for a long time, though I am within driving distance to both Evolution and JPC racing...

We make constant tune tweaks/revisions [MENTION=17196]rainier446[/MENTION]

Don't just :eyebulge: come to the darkside!

tevaburns · Oct 15, 2015

This thread.

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fionic · Oct 15, 2015

tevaburns said:
This thread.

this is amazing. I can't believe I haven't seen it.

atekido · Oct 15, 2015

Which tune is best? An actual dyno tune on your car thru hptuners or EFIlive thats just my opinion though

15RRGT · Oct 15, 2015

tevaburns said:
This thread.

This thread delivers!

MoneyPit#53 · Oct 15, 2015

Livernois Motorsports said:
We can say what separates us quite plainly.

We do our own tuning, for ourselves.
We use our own software, nobody elses.
We are not a tuner vendor.

Can you data log with the Livernois MyCalibrator tuning device?

beefcake · Oct 15, 2015

MoneyPit#53 said:
Can you data log with the Livernois MyCalibrator tuning device?

Ngauge has phenomenal datalogging :headbang:

Livernois Motorsports · Oct 15, 2015

MoneyPit#53 said:
Can you data log with the Livernois MyCalibrator tuning device?

No, but you could use a secondary app/device if you need to monitor. Many guys run TorquePro as a backup. We do not rely upon OBD monitoring for tuning, but that doesn't mean that we can't make requested tweaks either.

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