Anyone running a true square (width+offset) setup?

jasonstang said:

Spacer is a big no no for track day.

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jasonstang said:

Show me one race team uses spacers for their race cars.

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Can you explain to me why spacers are a track day no-no?

jasonstang said:

If it's for the track, then rotating tire really doesn't matter as thread depth doesn't really affect dry traction. Just throw on new tires when they get worn.
The reason to rotate tire is to keep thread depth even to provide even wet/snow traction.

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jasonstang said:

Ok I suppose replacing one tire per track day is kinda annoying.
As far as wear, the overall wear would be the same regardless you rotate or not.
The only difference is they are wearing unevenly if not rotated.

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jasonstang said:

Spacer is a big no no for track day.

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Where are you getting all your information? All of these statements are false.

1) There are tons of reasons to rotate tires at the track, depends on the car, the driver, and the track. And grip (especially on race tires) can definitely change based on how much wear the tire has (regardless of "tread depth" since some dont have any tread at all)

2) Overall wear may not be the same. Some cars/tracks eat one or two tires at a much higher rate. IE high horsepower tracks, tracks with more lefts than rights, more rights than lefts, etc etc

3) There are no issues with spacers are the track if they have the proper studs and are hub centric.

jasonstang said:

Show me one race team uses spacers for their race cars.

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No. I choose not to. And, it's a false equivalency in any case.

TheDeadCow said:

Can you explain to me why spacers are a track day no-no?

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So this does not happen to you?

Do you have any details about that mess, or are you just throwing the picture here claiming that it demonstrates some universal truth about spacers?

Can you identify the fundamental differences in that mess with what we're talking about here?

jasonstang said:

So this does not happen to you?

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Ok. Can you explain what happened in the pic to cause this?

And we're on our way to another thread derail . . .

DirtRoadTrip said:

The Ford racing GT350R hubs you can buy For a reasonable price have extended studs that I think will enable this setup.

Ben

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Part # for the GT350R hubs??

Sprintamx said:

Pure ignorance and lack of experience. Please do not cloud up this thread with your lack of knowledge or experience.

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Actually I would have to agree. I don't agree on the wheel comment but I do agree with the spacer comment.

Sprintamx said:

And we're on our way to another thread derail . . .

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Sorry about that, I'll stop

TheDeadCow said:

Sorry about that, I'll stop

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Wasn't really referring to you, but

A I love to tell my wife: don't chase the rabbit!

TheDeadCow said:

Ok. Can you explain what happened in the pic to cause this?

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Here. Enjoy.
The way I look at it is if it will fail. It's WHEN it will fail.
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/167822-warning-aluminium-wheel-spacers.html

Sprintamx said:

Wasn't really referring to you, but

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I know but it takes two to tango. I'm also interested in learning about this so I didn't want to contribute to thread jacking. No worries :cheers:

Our UK friend was using an entirely different kind of spacer / adapter then what has been referenced here. Completely unsuited to heavy cornering loads.

But hey, don't use any kind of spacer and be safe!

It seems to me a plate type spacer (not a bolt on type) with extended studs would be the way to go. This setup would require open end lug nuts when switching back to the stock wheels with no spacer.