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I wouldn't disagree the m3 is utterly slow if not in the right rpms when in na form. Also, doesn't help manual gearing is a bit tall in comparison to dct. Brakes are not terrible but nowhere as good as today's standards. Gas mileage is shit..nothing to say there. But, the car is old and...

2013 non comp package so basically a 2007 spec m3. Anyways, I own a 625hp sc m3 and absolutely love it...but that's not the point. I'm also hoping to add a nice supercharged 5.0 gt or Shelby to my stable as well. Something about that mustang sound is intoxicating. Anyone who denies these cars as...

I will say I agree with you 100%. The point I was simply trying to make is that you if you do finance it isn't always because you can't afford the car. I'm sure that isn't always the case though...With the point you made, as long as money is still making you money then all is well. I'd never go...

Ultimately, its all relative I suppose. I mean I guess for a depreciating asset I see where people are coming from. But, the old days of paying cash on everything are long gone (doesn't always make sense). Now financing more than you can afford is another topic where I can see where people could...

:doh: Whatever floats your boat. I love the people (not you particularly) who think paying all cash proves financial greatness. If I could get a great rate the money I didn't drop into the barrel can be invested for greater returns over a 36 or 60 month period then what I would spend in interest...

the facts :headbang:

Feels good to be potentially right! I told many people over and over back in october it would be in the 48k range.

Pretty sure that included the roush tvs and suspension as he mentioned at end of sale.

I see a whole lot of dodge charger in this pic....not really a fan

I see a whole lot of dodge charger in this pic....not really a fan

:lol: I was thinking the exact same thing, I think ford needs to higher the FIAT women. :eyebulge:

Well if he bought the v-6 for financial reasons then nothing to really say there. If he could of afforded the gt, I would of bought the gt mustang. I mean that's half the experience in owning the mustang to begin with. If he isn't going to buy a gt mustang/trade many other cars with v6 or turbo...

Agreed, plus the m235i is one of the best looking BMW they've made atm.

Id prefer it if the bars weren't white but I liked the smoke color of the outer light over the red. My favorite still to date are the 2014 models

Wow, why do they get those awesome taillights! Need those..

I'm saying that a base gt350 is the middle model in the hierarchy. A base gt500 will be a tier higher than the gt350. Now, a gt350R model will be a different tier all together and could be priced differently. As a R model wouldn't be considered a DD in comparison and more so a dedicated vehicle...

Good observation, I've been stating over and over again that the upgrades they made weren't incredibly costly. The CFRP isn't a very complicated mold to produce, or is it incredibly expensive. Also the BBK brakes are probably in the realm of 4-8k before being amortized across the model. Magnetic...

For multiple reasons. It's a very targeted market for those who will track it. It's not a full production 30k volume per year vehicle. It's also grossly over priced anyways. It's a statement to prove they can create a track weapon out of the dying zeta platform camaro.

Fyi, if anyone followed the development of the latest gm masterpiece the c7 comparing both the base corvette and the base z06 what prices are you observing. 51k is the base price of a vette, it also can get a variable exhaust for 1k magnetic ride for 1.2k after adding the z51 package. It also...

I'm an automotive design engineer myself and know exactly what type of time goes into development. I also understand how packaging and economies of scale works. As well as how R&D is spread out across future projected development to consume some of the cost it takes to develop such vehicles. I...