Winter Tire Help Please

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This probably won't convince geep81 these tires are worth a damn in the snow, but PA4s are 3PMSF-branded, which means they meet certain criteria for winter performance to be considered severe snow service-rated.
Ditto, the Sottozero's.

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If you were being given advice about daily driving a Mustang in the winter from someone who admitted earlier in the thread that he doesn't daily his Mustang in the snow much and takes a pickup truck instead, would you REALLY count on that persons experience to sway you? REALLY?

What you've added to this thread amounted to jack in terms of the question I asked, you have just gone on a personal crusade to prove your choice was the right choice. You should go drive your GT350 more because you seem bored.
 

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If you were being given advice about daily driving a Mustang in the winter from someone who admitted earlier in the thread that he doesn't daily his Mustang in the snow much and takes a pickup truck instead, would you REALLY count on that persons experience to sway you? REALLY?

What you've added to this thread amounted to jack in terms of the question I asked, you have just gone on a personal crusade to prove your choice was the right choice. You should go drive your GT350 more because you seem bored.
What about me, who doesn't own a truck, and goes out driving in the snow for kicks :crackup:

The snow performance of both the tires I've mentioned is more than sufficient to make the Wrangler kids question their vehicle/lifestyle choices, and for me to pass by lesser-tired vehicles in the ditches they've slid into. The added performance on cold pavement , wet or dry, is far greater than the snow performance they give up.

You do you, but don't pretend like we've given you terrible advice.
 
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You do you, but don't pretend like we've given you terrible advice.
I will pretend I am getting advice I didn't ask for though, because that is true! 😂

To be totally fair and elaborate more, your experiences do not mirror mine either. PA4s may be fine for me 80% of the time, but that time I am stuck in an ice/snowy blizzard I will definitely appreciate that I didn't go for a performance tire for the winter. And driving in the snow for kicks is a lot different than for necessity - I need to get to work and not feel like I almost died by the time I get there!

We get that slush mix on the road. That slush often freezes and then gets more snow dumped on top of it. Makes for some shaky lane changes at the very least. The better ice traction and tread design for gripping that from a X-Ice will definitely give a noticeable benefit over non-snow tires.

I keep tell you all you are trying to give me advice for something that was never in consideration and not what this thread was about. I was confused about tire size I should get, not the type of tire. I just don't want a performance snow tire at all, as they are not better than a dedicated snow tire for the intended purpose. They are a great but compromised design and I don't want compromise I want the best for the purpose. Does that make sense?

I want to make it down my driveway without plowing. I want to drive in a blizzard with a foot of snow on the ground and not white knuckle it at all. I want as planted and grippy as possible in terrible conditions. PA4s will not get me there but they will get me close, I get it.
 

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If you were being given advice about daily driving a Mustang in the winter from someone who admitted earlier in the thread that he doesn't daily his Mustang in the snow much and takes a pickup truck instead, would you REALLY count on that persons experience to sway you? REALLY?

What you've added to this thread amounted to jack in terms of the question I asked, you have just gone on a personal crusade to prove your choice was the right choice. You should go drive your GT350 more because you seem bored.
Have you used this forum much?? Personal crusades are de rigueur 🤣
 

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I will pretend I am getting advice I didn't ask for though, because that is true! 😂

To be totally fair and elaborate more, your experiences do not mirror mine either. PA4s may be fine for me 80% of the time, but that time I am stuck in an ice/snowy blizzard I will definitely appreciate that I didn't go for a performance tire for the winter. And driving in the snow for kicks is a lot different than for necessity - I need to get to work and not feel like I almost died by the time I get there!

We get that slush mix on the road. That slush often freezes and then gets more snow dumped on top of it. Makes for some shaky lane changes at the very least. The better ice traction and tread design for gripping that from a X-Ice will definitely give a noticeable benefit over non-snow tires.

I keep tell you all you are trying to give me advice for something that was never in consideration and not what this thread was about. I was confused about tire size I should get, not the type of tire. I just don't want a performance snow tire at all, as they are not better than a dedicated snow tire for the intended purpose. They are a great but compromised design and I don't want compromise I want the best for the purpose. Does that make sense?

I want to make it down my driveway without plowing. I want to drive in a blizzard with a foot of snow on the ground and not white knuckle it at all. I want as planted and grippy as possible in terrible conditions. PA4s will not get me there but they will get me close, I get it.
I looked back at your original post, and it us a bit ambiguous as to what you were asking. You said "these tires don't fit", what will fit?

It makes sense, but you're just not correct that the conditions/parameters you describe wouldn't be met with the tires I have suggested. I don't whiteknuckle, or feel like I've "almost died", or have any trouble on slush or ice. I plow the driveway with the tires. But whatever, man, best of luck out there.
 
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