Why No Adaptive Cruise on Mach1?

[wilkinda65]

I wouldn't go that far. Yes, the question was why it's not there, maybe not the merits of it, but how else does a forum operate?
Do you really expect a question to be posted and everyone that isn't sure about correct answer to not post?

I mean, of course this site has some forum creep and side discussions that make it frustrating to stay on topic, but to expect a forum of two posts - a question and then one verified answer is a bit unrealistic.

It turned into a pissing contest of the same few people stating their opinions back and forth for pages. That’s the bullshit I’m referring too that was still going on. Same couple of folks rehashing the same shit over snd over and over

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[Bikeman315]

It turned into a pissing contest of the same few people stating their opinions back and forth for pages. That’s the bullshit I’m referring too that was still going on. Same couple of folks rehashing the same shit over snd over and over

You think this one is repetitive, head over to the “Science is canceled“ thread.

 

[Norm Peterson]

It turned into a pissing contest of the same few people stating their opinions back and forth for pages. That’s the bullshit I’m referring too that was still going on. Same couple of folks rehashing the same shit over snd over and over

Snipped from a different forum, but the same general thinking applies here if you're old enough to remember the "back then".

back then the traction control resided in the foot of a skilled driver. you could not just slam it to the floor unless you wanted to sit and spin

Think about it . . .


Norm

 

[Mustangpursuit]

I guess someone has to take the risk at installing it on a ACC mustang to find out if it affects it or not? Here is a example of a used Mach 1 bumper on the inside. and a stock 18+ inside to compare with the lights and stuff still inside

 

[Atlas1]

I guess someone has to take the risk at installing it on a ACC mustang to find out if it affects it or not? Here is a example of a used Mach 1 bumper on the inside. and a stock 18+ inside to compare with the lights and stuff still inside

Just curious, where did you get that picture? Is that used bumper for sale? Thank you

 

[Bikeman315]

I guess someone has to take the risk at installing it on a ACC mustang to find out if it affects it or not? Here is a example of a used Mach 1 bumper on the inside. and a stock 18+ inside to compare with the lights and stuff still inside

Thank you MP. So we can see the differences in the bumpers. Now can someone show us where the ACC parts go?

 

[Mustangpursuit]

Thank you MP. So we can see the differences in the bumpers. Now can someone show us where the ACC parts go?

The ACC is not part of the bumper cover. It is bolted under the metal bumper bar on the frame of the car on driver side.

If nothing on the bumper cover touches it or does clear it, then it should work fine?

However the more I look at the mach 1 bumper, it looks like more work to add to a regular GT, need new wheel well liner, bolt holes do not line up and is more rearward. also the plug for the turn signals does not match. etc

Have yet to see a Mach 1 with the bumper cover removed, maybe it has extra cooling systems in place of where the ACC would be also?

 

[Mustangpursuit]

Just curious, where did you get that picture? Is that used bumper for sale? Thank you

found it on ebay

 

[Mustangpursuit]

Various factors here,

All OEM Mustang lower grills even the bullitt have the sides blocked off since the lower radiator has aero walls inside to keep air only flowing into the center . Mach 1 has same thing with exception of two openings on the sides to feed the cooling tubes that have been added.

There is all kinds of mixed results when it comes to aftermarket lower grills. some with a GT350 replica grill had ACC work fine (that one had honeycomb and no solid area except for a fang in the way. GT500 replica had mixed results, one had better success since one of the manufacturers had polyurethane vs polypropylene. Some have success with aftermarket Bullitt lower grills that is very similar to the side of the mach one (solid with honeycomb pattern over it), but some have issue with the factory bullitt lower. Probably thicker material being used.

I believe the ACC we use needs a solid area in front, but specific thickness and no texture in front of the solid piece.

Maybe due to the number of Mach 1, they did not want to sell a new lower that has the driver side solid piece thinner and smooth (would look off?) But of course it may have been completely ruled out not by the grill design or material, perhaps it simply because Ford said in some articles that they skipped ACC due to the aero stuff behind the grill (I assume the narrow pipe that goes straight and angles out from the sides of the grill?) gets in the way of the sensor bracket area. Would seem redundant if they said ACC mach 1 have more cooling on pax side and the driver side was blocked off 100% and no tubing.

I think main answer to this from Ford somewhat was the aero pieces behind grill conflicting with where ACC would be put vs grill material.

Also I think some do not want to take liability of an exposed sensor where airflow/debris hits it directly if bracket were to be adjusted.

Other stuff such as Australian owners had to get reimbursed with track days and free maintenance since they ended up with no ACC / reverse sensors / and even worse no Torsten... cause those were features published at time of order.

The stock bumper bar cover is same on all Mustangs and it has an indentation cut out that goes around the top of the installed ACC sensor. can see how the tube may be too close or in way of the sensor area

Another big question is..... is the front crash bar on Mach 1 redesigned or changed? if that is the case then maybe no way to re-use and recycle the existing ACC bracket (not worth it to redesign for just a one-off model)

 

[wilkinda65]

Thank you MP. So we can see the differences in the bumpers. Now can someone show us where the ACC parts go?

Honestly you need to see a Mach1 without the front bumper on and a GT w/ACC without the front bumper. The bumper doesn’t tell the story. What’s behind it does

 

[Dr. Norts]

Australian Mach 1 sales brochure states, ACC is a Standard option,

Safety, Security & Driver Assistance
Adaptive Cruise Control.............................................. S

Didn't they (Australia) also state a bunch of other shit was standard and also not included and there's a pending lawsuit over it?

 

[51NNED]

Didn't they (Australia) also state a bunch of other shit was standard and also not included and there's a pending lawsuit over it?

No lawsuit AFAIK but 3 years free servicing and a track day in lieu of the missing parts, or cancel the order with no penalty.

 

[Mustangpursuit]

Honestly you need to see a Mach1 without the front bumper on and a GT w/ACC without the front bumper. The bumper doesn’t tell the story. What’s behind it does

Yeah we also need to see the size of the so called "heavy duty radiator" that the Mach 1 has compared to base GT. That might be too wide and conflicts with any sensors (some centrifugal superchargers and upgraded larger options for some superchargers cause contact and no more space to maintain the ACC sensor)

Here is the ACC sensor installed and fits and extends neatly into the little dedicated cut out in the plastic crash bar cover that you install onto bumper covers.

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