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You’re the second person who said that about the E85. I know I’ve probably read about it 1 million times on this site but isn’t there other things I need to do to my car to use it or do I just need to make sure I switch to that tune before I put it in from empty.
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That's exactly correct. Once you buy the credits for a vehicle to tune with an HP device, you can switch from multiple tunes and/or multiple tuners and never need to buy credits again for that vehicle. Think of the credits as an individual device that is locked to that vehicle. I have two different cars tuned by an HP device and they are both listed in my TDN app on my phone, I just had to buy credits for each one.
I was trying to read about that on their website and I’ve actually sent them an email. The RTD is $299 and the AVID is $699 but the credits for the RTD are $400 so it’s a wash.
 

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I was trying to read about that on their website and I’ve actually sent them an email. The RTD is $299 and the AVID is $699 but the credits for the RTD are $400 so it’s a wash.
Credits for an HP device are universal, and last year when I tuned mine they were 50 each and you need 4 so 200. And I buy the credits direct from hp, not a tuner. I just checked Wengerd and you can get 4 credits for 191, not 400
 
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Credits for an HP device are universal, and last year when I tuned mine they were 50 each and you need 4 so 200. And I buy the credits direct from hp, not a tuner. I just checked Wengerd and you can get 4 credits for 191, not 400
But is that $191 still on top of the $299 tune price. I would think that if you bought his tune and the device why would they charge more. I know I’m nickel and diming here but I’m just wondering why you need credits to buy his tune with an RTD.
 

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Look at this way, say you have 4 vehicles you want to tune and you want to use an SCT X4 device, they are 369.99 on amazon, plus 299 for the tune so that's 668.99 for each vehicle for a total of 2675.96 to tune 4 cars. Now lets do the same with an RTD, its 299 for the device then 299 for the tune and 200 for the credits for the first vehicle so your at 798, but then its only 499 for each additional vehicle because you car reuse the rtd on multi cars at the same time. So 4 cars tuned using the rtd is 2295

The more cars you have tuned with an RTD, the cheaper each becomes.

You can shop around and maybe find the tune cheaper, but Wengerd is one of the cheaper tunes out there. I paid 450 for one 93 tune on my explorer ST
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