The 16th....

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Remember - Ford plays a part with it's allocation algorithm and the dealer plays a part in setting priorities on its orders.

Allocations are considered first. As each dealers turn comes up their lowest priority numbered order is scheduled (1) if they have an allocation and (2) if parts for that order are available. If the order schedules the allocation is used. If the dealer has no allocation or the lowest priority order is unbuildable, the dealer is skipped that round. This proceeds round after round going to the next lowest priority number order for each dealer until all allocations are used (or there are no dealers with allocations that have orders with buildable cars). The next step is to consider retail orders from dealers with no allocations. Again, if the lowest priority number retail order is buildable it will schedule. If not the dealer is skipped that round. This continues round after round until the production limit for that week is reached or there are no buildable orders left.

There ae several ways some of the remaining early retail orders may go unscheduled next week.

(1) Dealer has no allocations and the commodties list is used up before the order is considered.
(2) Dealers with allocations have enough buildable orders to fill the entire production run for that week and the early retail order is at a dealer with no allocations
(3) Dealer has placed a higher priority number (say 15-19) on an early order but has accepted several new orders and placed a lower priority numbers on them (say 10 or 11)

Reminder - the order date only breaks ties on orders in the same dealership with the same priority number. An order dated 10/15 with a priority 10 will schedule before an order dated 5/20 with a priority 11 at the same dealership. A stock order at a dealer with an allocation and no retail orders will schedule before a retail order at a dealer with no allocations unless Ford steps in and changes the scheduling requirements for that week.

Not trying to dampen anyone's enthusiasm or dash any hopes, but this is how Ford has scheduled in the past and will likely continue to schedule now.

This is a very helpful summary of all the information that we have.

My question is... how to figure out if a dealer has an allocation or not? The dealership I ordered from might sell one or two Mustangs a year, tops. I've never seen a Mustang on the showroom floor -- all Fusions and Escapes and Lincolns. When I bought my current Mustang there, they had to trade it in from a network dealer three hundred miles away. So I'll assume that they don't have any allocations from FoMoCo. Does that mean that my order will never get built?

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[Free Agent]

Do priority codes 01 through 09 "trump" or "beat" every other priority code albeit stock or retail? 10-19 retail and 20-99 stock?

In other words does a retail priority 02 order get picked if that same dealer has a dealer stock priority 20 as long as there is an allocation available?

Do priority codes 01-09 override allocations? In other words if a dealer has NO allocations will a priority 02 "force" an allocation and a VIN/build week scheduled?

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Do priority codes 01 through 09 "trump" or "beat" every other priority code albeit stock or retail? 10-19 retail and 20-99 stock?

In other words does a retail priority 02 order get picked if that same dealer has a dealer stock priority 20 as long as there is an allocation available?

Do priority codes 01-09 override allocations? In other words if a dealer has NO allocations will a priority 02 "force" an allocation and a VIN/build week scheduled?

Priority codes 01-09 are only given to emergency orders -- so, like, if your car was being delivered to the dealership and fell off the delivery truck and was destroyed, a replacement order would be given a single-digit priority code to step to the front of the line as an emergency case. Regular orders don't get single-digit priority codes no matter how much you beg.

 

[Free Agent]

Priority codes 01-09 are only given to emergency orders -- so, like, if your car was being delivered to the dealership and fell off the delivery truck and was destroyed, a replacement order would be given a single-digit priority code to step to the front of the line as an emergency case. Regular orders don't get single-digit priority codes no matter how much you beg.

I have an 02 priority right now, that's why I asked. I just went through my dealer and he went through his Ford rep. I'm ecstatic my dealer did this for me but I don't know if it will "work" or not.

 

[MikeAZ]

...My question is... how to figure out if a dealer has an allocation or not...

You can ask to see the allocation report, but the dealer has no obligation to show it to you. Same situation in regards to historical sales volumes. Allocations depend on that (around 60%) and current vehicle inventory (around 40%). The percentages were posted by a dealer several years ago so the ratios may have changed. On slow selling vehicles allocations are sometimes disregarded for retail orders. Can't see that happening on this model year for the Mustang.

 

[MikeAZ]

I have an 02 priority right now, that's why I asked. I just went through my dealer and he went through his Ford rep. I'm ecstatic my dealer did this for me but I don't know if it will "work" or not.

Ford regional managers and Ford scheduling employees are the only ones who can assign a 01-09 priority. The dealer asked for you, but the regional representative is the one who made the decision.

From what I have read, the special priority numbered orders are considered before the regular allocations so you should have no issues receiving a VIN next week. But as MC posted earlier today, the actual schedule date depends on what parts are needed on your car and when the line can accomodate the time slots needed to install them.

 

[Clink]

I have an 02 priority right now, that's why I asked. I just went through my dealer and he went through his Ford rep. I'm ecstatic my dealer did this for me but I don't know if it will "work" or not.

Seriously considering having a talk with my salesman and manager to see if they will go to bat for me with the regional manager to bump me up. My priority on a 5/23 order is 19 right now and they had 6 Retail orders pull VIN's first run. I'm willing to drop a few $100 bills around the office there if they can make it happen. Fucking sad.......

 

[Moonshoot69]

Well this is for sure. Anyone with a priority code below 10 is going to get there scheduled right away on the 16th Hell it might go to production before people with Vins right now!! A good friend of mine has his 13 explorer sport damaged in transport. Those trucks when they first came out where super hot. They where all spoken for. Anyway on his rebuild he got a priority 2. Car was at the dealer 16 days later!

 

[MikeAZ]

Seriously considering having a talk with my salesman and manager to see if they will go to bat for me with the regional manager to bump me up. My priority on a 5/23 order is 19 right now and they had 6 Retail orders pull VIN's first run. I'm willing to drop a few $100 bills around the office there if they can make it happen. Fucking sad.......

That is the one part of the system I really dislike. The dealer can string you along with the priority codes. One change I'd like to see is all retail orders get the same priority number and the order they are pulled is the order they were placed (with the caveat that parts for each build are available).

It is frustrating to have orders placed in different priority bins by the dealership. For a ficticious example - you get a 10 if you are friends, family, or a dealership employee. You get an 11-13 if you pay above MSRP, you get a 14-17 for under MSRP but significantly over invoice. You get a 18-19 for X-Plan, A-Plan, or under invoice. Dealers have incentive to bin orders this way to maximize profit and enable pay to play. Thankfully only a few dealers do this but as a customer it is hard to detect.

For a popular vehicle like the '15 Mustang, along with the slow assembly ramp up and high demand, it could literally take months to have a priority 19 order pulled, if at all (even at a high volume dealership) as long as the orders keep coming in.

 

[Sal JC]

I will be MASSIVELY disappointed if I don't at least get a VIN on the 16th. I've known intellectually that I wouldn't be getting my car until January since I ordered it four months ago, but lately I've been toying around with the idea of getting something else just because I'm sick of waiting...

You could have mine, Ford's not doing anything with it.

 

[Free Agent]

Ford regional managers and Ford scheduling employees are the only ones who can assign a 01-09 priority. The dealer asked for you, but the regional representative is the one who made the decision.

From what I have read, the special priority numbered orders are considered before the regular allocations so you should have no issues receiving a VIN next week. But as MC posted earlier today, the actual schedule date depends on what parts are needed on your car and when the line can accomodate the time slots needed to install them.

Right, my dealer advocated for me, it appears the regional rep did us both a favor. I guess we will see what happens. I'm prepared for all outcomes although I may not like certain ones. ;)

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