Streetfighter nGauge Tunes

[Melbnut]

Thanks David, what about the issue with the n gauge for changing back to a stock tune?

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[Burkey]

David, is there any particular reason you went with Ngauge rather than SCT? I realise that the flash times are faster with the Ngauge, but for the vast majority of your customers I'd have thought having the "crank relearn" function would be far more useful.
I'd love to hear your reasoning.
Cheers

 

[Streetfighter Mustang]

Thanks David, what about the issue with the n gauge for changing back to a stock tune?

You can re-load to stock infinite times.
The nGauge will automatically read and marry to your vehicles VIN on first load.
It will then save your standard tune to re-load when you want.

 

[Josh_TypeX]

You can re-load to stock infinite times.
The nGauge will automatically read and marry to your vehicles VIN on first load.
It will then save your standard tune to re-load when you want.

Hi David, in regards to flashing back to stock using the N-Gauge, one issue that is currently an active topic in other threads is the need to perform a crank relearn after flashing back to stock. The N-Gauge does not have this function as far as I am aware. Do you have a plan for customers that experience this issue? Will they be able to have the relearn performed by their local Streetfighter agent? What about the guys with no agent nearby?

 

[Streetfighter Mustang]

Hi David, in regards to flashing back to stock using the N-Gauge, one issue that is currently an active topic in other threads is the need to perform a crank relearn after flashing back to stock. The N-Gauge does not have this function as far as I am aware. Do you have a plan for customers that experience this issue? Will they be able to have the relearn performed by their local Streetfighter agent? What about the guys with no agent nearby?

The (Misfire Monitor Neutral Profile Correction) or Crank Relearn procedure is for any time a PCM is replaced, the CKP sensor or the crankshaft pulse wheel is replaced or when major engine repairs have been completed.
It is carried out in order for the misfire detection system to function correctly, and allow any mechanical inaccuracies in the crankshaft position (CKP) sensor must be learned by the PCM.

We have never had to utilise the Crank relearn on flashing tunes, both in house or remotely. The feature is more a workshop feature and I believe will be added to the nGauge in the near future.
All Streetfighter specialist workshops and Ford dealers need to have this ability when carrying out mechanical changes /repairs on your Mustang.

 

[tienlo]

Hi, just a quick review:

Got my nGauge from David @ KPM last week and installed it over the weekend. The install took less than 15 minutes and the only thing I needed to complete the whole install was 8 small squares of double sided tape (about 1cm x 1cm).

It's a really simple to use tuner and it looks great in the aircon vent.

David supplied a tune to suit my current setup (98 octane, no mods apart from catback exhaust).

Loading my tune takes less than 2 minutes. Loading back to stock also takes less than 2 minutes, all via the menu which is pretty easy to work out without a manual
If you search, there are some instructions available online from the Lund site

With the KPM nGauge it's locked to tunes that are supplied by KPM.
I have the option of getting more email tunes based upon my mods, or I can get KPM to do a 'traditional' in-house dyno tuning session to acquire a custom tune.

I can then add these tunes to the nGauge via the front USB port & a laptop. The tunes are small files approx 4mb each.

 

[Josh_TypeX]

Hi, just a quick review:

Got my nGauge from David @ KPM last week and installed it over the weekend. The install took less than 15 minutes and the only thing I needed to complete the whole install was 8 small squares of double sided tape (about 1cm x 1cm).

It's a really simple to use tuner and it looks great in the aircon vent.

David supplied a tune to suit my current setup (98 octane, no mods apart from catback exhaust).

Loading my tune takes less than 2 minutes. Loading back to stock also takes less than 2 minutes, all via the menu which is pretty easy to work out without a manual
If you search, there are some instructions available online from the Lund site

With the KPM nGauge it's locked to tunes that are supplied by KPM.
I have the option of getting more email tunes based upon my mods, or I can get KPM to do a 'traditional' in-house dyno tuning session to acquire a custom tune.

I can then add these tunes to the nGauge via the front USB port & a laptop. The tunes are small files approx 4mb each.

Thanks for the information Tienlo... but you left out the most important part. How does it drive with the new tune? Noticeable improvement in performance?

 

[Vinno]

Hi, just a quick review:

Got my nGauge from David @ KPM last week and installed it over the weekend. The install took less than 15 minutes and the only thing I needed to complete the whole install was 8 small squares of double sided tape (about 1cm x 1cm).

It's a really simple to use tuner and it looks great in the aircon vent.

David supplied a tune to suit my current setup (98 octane, no mods apart from catback exhaust).

Loading my tune takes less than 2 minutes. Loading back to stock also takes less than 2 minutes, all via the menu which is pretty easy to work out without a manual
If you search, there are some instructions available online from the Lund site

With the KPM nGauge it's locked to tunes that are supplied by KPM.
I have the option of getting more email tunes based upon my mods, or I can get KPM to do a 'traditional' in-house dyno tuning session to acquire a custom tune.

I can then add these tunes to the nGauge via the front USB port & a laptop. The tunes are small files approx 4mb each.

That looks good but I guess the obvious question is how does it drive?

Also would you leave it there for services from the dealer or are you not using them? I understand they would be able to tell if it has been flashed when hooking up to the computer so I guess it makes no difference really.

 

[tienlo]

That looks good but I guess the obvious question is how does it drive?

Also would you leave it there for services from the dealer or are you not using them? I understand they would be able to tell if it has been flashed when hooking up to the computer so I guess it makes no difference really.

Haha, it definitely drives well. My main reason for getting the nGauge is to allow me to step up to Forced induction tunes easily.

A dyno run before and after (Not part of the KPM nGauge package) netted about 20rwkw and solid gains in torque throughout the mid and high range. A lot of extra power for a basically stock car with a plug-and-play canned tune, however I'm not expecting to definitely feel a 20rwkw increase in power in a car that's already 240+ kw.

In the couple of days I've driven it on the street it accelerates solidly, idles smoothly, has good throttle response and it feels like it is more responsive when feathering the pedal, particularly when oversteering through a corner.

As yet I'm undecided who I'll get to service my car.

I'm going to go the Procharger route this year (so everyone will know I flashed the ECU anyways) and my wheels / exhaust already scream modified car... so I'm not going to be trying to hide any mods from Ford.

KPM have an additional warranty to cover flash tunes if you're worried about Ford denying you repairs (I didn't get it)

This link will take you to some photos I took during the install and the dyno results (Dyno reading is Flywheel Kilowatts, Catback exhaust only stock tune versus Catback exhaust only plus nGauge canned tune)
http://s838.photobucket.com/user/tienlo/library/Ngauge install

 

[Streetfighter Mustang]

David, is there any particular reason you went with Ngauge rather than SCT? I realise that the flash times are faster with the Ngauge, but for the vast majority of your customers I'd have thought having the "crank relearn" function would be far more useful.
I'd love to hear your reasoning.
Cheers

As per the above post #50, we have no reason to have a crank re-learn function , even though nGauge are looking to add this feature.

Our reasons for the nGauge vs SCT are;
-Easier programming structure and faster loading times
-HP data looging is far superior to SCT logging ( this makes for more accuarate tuning and development)
- end user (customer) receives a far more usable product / usable gauge vs a load device only for approx same price.

 

[Burkey]

As per the above post #50, we have no reason to have a crank re-learn function , even though nGauge are looking to add this feature.

Our reasons for the nGauge vs SCT are;
-Easier programming structure and faster loading times
-HP data looging is far superior to SCT logging ( this makes for more accuarate tuning and development)
- end user (customer) receives a far more usable product / usable gauge vs a load device only for approx same price.

Thanks David. I think that might help a few people to choose their tuning device. :cheers:

 

[00racer]

I called spoke with David asked the questions i needed to, he gave me all the information i needed and confidence in there tunes, ngauge and their support going forward with tunes to suit mods i will do so I purchased the ngauge from him it arrived next day .... got my 3 tunes 98 ...95 and valet to suit my GT and mods ... I have loaded and tried all 3 and reflashed to stock and everything works great.

As for performance the car is snappier and pulls strong but the car is still very new so nothing stupid rev wise my end but Im very happy with it. David also asked for some data logging in the future to make sure everthing is as it should be.


So if your inclinded to go the in direction of tuning this way with the options for custom tuning Im sure you wont be dissapointed with it.

 

[stasik-a4]

I have loaded and tried all 3 and reflashed to stock and everything works great.

So your saying that you have flashed the stock file after the performance files and you did not had to do the crank relearn and it all worked fine?

 

[00racer]

Hi

Yes there are no codes and i dont have to do a crank relearn i just went and reflashed it all again to make sure I went back to stock then 98 then stock then 95 then stock then valet then stock

I checked for DTC codes there arnt any

I drove on all three tunes again and stock tune they all work fine so happy days

Hope that helps you

 

[stasik-a4]

Hi

Yes there are no codes and i dont have to do a crank relearn i just went and reflashed it all again to make sure I went back to stock then 98 then stock then 95 then stock then valet then stock

I checked for DTC codes there arnt any

I drove on all three tunes again and stock tune they all work fine so happy days

Hope that helps you

Maybe our cars don't need crank re learn and its only the US cars that do...

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