Sorry guys, another oil question

[TheRog]

I recently purchased a non-premium performance package ecoboost Mustang, and I absolutly love it. I've also become obsessed with this forum, and find myself spending hours reading through posts. While I appreciate the abundance of information, the forum has ruined me, and I find myself tormented to do something as a simple an an oil change. I bought Mobile 1 because it's the correct weight and explicitly complies with Ford standards to ensure the warranty is not jeopardized, but have not done the oil change because there are multiple posts referencing that this is the wrong oil for a GDI motor. There are many high end automobiles using Mobile 1, so I would like to know if there are any facts to back up Mobile 1 is bad for the ecoboost, or if this is an opinion. Also, what is the recomended warranty friendly oil? I don't believe Rotella T6 meets this criteria. Thanks in advance, I'm sure that long time posters will be annoyed by another oil question, bit I really did search and did not come to a conclusion. Thanks!

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[PRG3k]

Also, what is the recomended warranty friendly oil?

Honestly, use Ford Motorcraft 5w30 exclusively if you're so paranoid as to think Ford is going to send your oil off to a lab to see if it voided your warranty. You are over complicating your life a bit. Read the oil threads from a year ago, not just this month, and you'll have a clearer picture.

I don't believe Rotella T6 meets this criteria.

Don't be scared of the word 'diesel' or the 5w40 weight. Diesel motors are basically direct injection. Many oil tests and popularity across multiple platforms have shown it to be a pretty stout oil especially for the price.

 

[jbailer]

Honestly, use Ford Motorcraft 5w30 exclusively if you're so paranoid as to think Ford is going to send your oil off to a lab to see if it voided your warranty. You are over complicating your life a bit. Read the oil threads from a year ago, not just this month, and you'll have a clearer picture.



Don't be scared of the word 'diesel' or the 5w40 weight. Diesel motors are basically direct injection. Many oil tests and popularity across multiple platforms have shown it to be a pretty stout oil especially for the price.

While I agree with you for quality purposes, If the concern is warranty, I don't think I would go with Rotella T6 for the same reason TheRog mentions. It doesn't meet the spec that Ford calls for. If they are able to determine that in testing, they absolutely CAN deny a warranty claim. That is the only reason I won't use it. I think it's a great oil and if there was no warranty in question, I might use that.

 

[Juben]

I recently purchased a non-premium performance package ecoboost Mustang, and I absolutly love it. I've also become obsessed with this forum, and find myself spending hours reading through posts. While I appreciate the abundance of information, the forum has ruined me, and I find myself tormented to do something as a simple an an oil change. I bought Mobile 1 because it's the correct weight and explicitly complies with Ford standards to ensure the warranty is not jeopardized, but have not done the oil change because there are multiple posts referencing that this is the wrong oil for a GDI motor. There are many high end automobiles using Mobile 1, so I would like to know if there are any facts to back up Mobile 1 is bad for the ecoboost, or if this is an opinion. Also, what is the recomended warranty friendly oil? I don't believe Rotella T6 meets this criteria. Thanks in advance, I'm sure that long time posters will be annoyed by another oil question, bit I really did search and did not come to a conclusion. Thanks!

M1 isn't going to hurt anything. Most oils these days, synthetics more specifically, are pretty good oils, but it's like everything else in life that some are better formulations than others. It's kind of like a good < better < best situation. Running M1 isn't going to destroy your engine or anything of the nature and it's not a bad oil per se, but there's also just better oils out there. Do you get what I mean?

I'll use this example. For building a performance car, the GT is truthfully a better base to start with. If you spend $10k on a GT, you'll be running high-8s/low-9s in the 1/4 whereas with an EcoBoost Mustang you'd probably be in the 10s somewhere. Now, does that mean that the EBM is poop? No, not at all. It's just that there's various levels of a product to fit certain requirements, budgets, etc.

All in all, running M1 isn't going to make it go boom. It's very low in calcium, has some okay levels of phosphorous and zinc, and the NOACK isn't terrible (considering the base oil formulation). I'll tell you this though, I'd look at using the Extended Performance M1 because I've seen some information that says that they use more PAO in the base oil than they do with the standard M1. The more PAO/esters the better.

People are as particular about oil as they are about Chevy vs Ford, manual vs auto, etc. The best thing to do for anyone is to sit down, do some research, and figure out what you feel would be the best for you. I've tried about every oil on the market and came to my conclusions through a lot of my own experiences, the experiences of others, and lots and lots of research. Even as such, I can still say that I don't know everything and I'm still learning every day too.

 

[Damndave]

I recently purchased a non-premium performance package ecoboost Mustang, and I absolutly love it. I've also become obsessed with this forum, and find myself spending hours reading through posts. While I appreciate the abundance of information, the forum has ruined me, and I find myself tormented to do something as a simple an an oil change. I bought Mobile 1 because it's the correct weight and explicitly complies with Ford standards to ensure the warranty is not jeopardized, but have not done the oil change because there are multiple posts referencing that this is the wrong oil for a GDI motor. There are many high end automobiles using Mobile 1, so I would like to know if there are any facts to back up Mobile 1 is bad for the ecoboost, or if this is an opinion. Also, what is the recomended warranty friendly oil? I don't believe Rotella T6 meets this criteria. Thanks in advance, I'm sure that long time posters will be annoyed by another oil question, bit I really did search and did not come to a conclusion. Thanks!

Diesel oil is the same oil as regular car oil, the difference is it has extra cleaners detergents and chemicals for the car. Lots of people use it on here and I have never heard of one person saying ford voided the warranry because of that. Don't use the ford oil, this baby needs full synthetic

 

[Stangman21]

I recently purchased a non-premium performance package ecoboost Mustang, and I absolutly love it. I've also become obsessed with this forum, and find myself spending hours reading through posts. While I appreciate the abundance of information, the forum has ruined me, and I find myself tormented to do something as a simple an an oil change. I bought Mobile 1 because it's the correct weight and explicitly complies with Ford standards to ensure the warranty is not jeopardized, but have not done the oil change because there are multiple posts referencing that this is the wrong oil for a GDI motor. There are many high end automobiles using Mobile 1, so I would like to know if there are any facts to back up Mobile 1 is bad for the ecoboost, or if this is an opinion. Also, what is the recomended warranty friendly oil? I don't believe Rotella T6 meets this criteria. Thanks in advance, I'm sure that long time posters will be annoyed by another oil question, bit I really did search and did not come to a conclusion. Thanks!

Congrats on the new car! I was too obsessed reading the forums and gaining knowledge quickly on the Mustang. There is a simple solution on any forums. Tough to say what is truth and what is based on opinions. Take a break from the forums it'll do you good if your already freakin out about the negative "be careful" kind of warnings.

 

[juan_tony1]

I've used both t6 and m1 everything seems fine but no testing to back it up....like others say change it every 3-5k and u should be fine.

 

[TheRog]

All, thanks for the information, I have a better understanding now. This forum is the best. I'll continue silently lurking in other threads until I run into my next dilemma.

 

[Juben]

I've used both t6 and m1 everything seems fine but no testing to back it up....like others say change it every 3-5k and u should be fine.

That's one of the biggest things to do. If I'm just daily driving (mostly highway) , I'll change it every 5k miles on the dot. However, if I'm going to the drag strip several times a month or driving the car harder than normal, I'll change it every 3k miles. Turbos beat the crap out of oil, so it's good to stay on top of changes.

For those interested, if you do a used oil analysis (UOA) through Blackstone Labs, they'll tell you how good the oil looks and if you need to change it more frequently or if you can run it a little bit longer. It's $28 to have the testing done (they'll send you the kit for free though), but it's well worth it to see how your engine is doing and how the oil is performing and holding up.

 

[khrome13]

For those interested, if you do a used oil analysis (UOA) through Blackstone Labs, they'll tell you how good the oil looks and if you need to change it more frequently or if you can run it a little bit longer. It's $28 to have the testing done (they'll send you the kit for free though), but it's well worth it to see how your engine is doing and how the oil is performing and holding up.

With there test do you send a sample at a certain amount of miles on the oil or just when you change it?

 

[jbailer]

With there test do you send a sample at a certain amount of miles on the oil or just when you change it?

Whenever you change it. One of the purposes of the test is so that with your driving habits, you can determine the best oil change interval for you, your car and your driving. You may send it in and find it had plenty of life left and extend your next miles to oil change. Conversely, you might send it in and find it had deteriorated and you need to shorten your cycle. You just include all of the information about the oil when you send it in.

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