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I get it. It’s mostly crap but many of these people are having real problems. We have to at least admit as a society these things go have terrible side effect for some people. Most of the post start the same way, I am not pro vac but…

Just scroll through and look. Information never hurt anyone.

Edit. I would also like to add , where can people go to discuss there vaccine side effects? Facebook takes them down and the same with YouTube. Where can people discuss these problems beside some Reddit forum?
The side effects of the vaccine (any vaccine really) far outweighs the risks of Covid. Can you understand that? It may not seem fair to those that get the side effects, but many more people would have otherwise died (or worse) from the infection.

There is no perfect in medicine.
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Fair enough. But they didn't update their guidance to require clean bills of health before jabbing people, did they? The whole thing reeks of jab everybody and hope we don't have too many cases of things going sideways. Maybe this is a one-off for god knows why, but when your 'preventative' measure has this kind of calamitous result, you might want to rethink the whole cost/benefit analysis and put some giant warning signs up.

0.07% of dying from natural infection, or non-trivial chance of dying within 3 days or 4 months of taking the "safe" jab. Hmm...
Because what you are asking for is not practical and would actually result in more deaths.

It really is a trivial chance of dying from the vaccine. I'd bet you have a better chance of dying by lightning strike.
 

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Serious question.
Is it REA.LY that black and white for you? Do you even know what carbon neutral really means?
I'll admit my post was mostly humor, but the idea Co2 is a pollutant is absurd.
 

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There is a thing called 'public interest' and platform companies fall into that. The USG has been having private entities do their dirty work under the dishonest rubric that they are private entities. Well so was AT&T and yet they weren't allowed to just interrupt phone calls if the operator didn't like who was talking or about.

Google, YT, FB, Twitter are effectively the phone company. If they are going to fall back on the "private company, we can do whatever the hell we want", then section 203 protections MUST be revoked and they can take their chances in the courts fending off a blizzard of censorship claims.

And the USG MUST IMMEDIATELY confess to their collusion with FB et. al. to censor speech and furthermore require full disclosure of all such communications.

And those of us who will not be silenced will build a parallel platform ecosystem where our views will be respected enough not to be silenced. But this will drive a massive stake thru social cohesion and is not a good path in the long run.
 

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There is a thing called 'public interest' and platform companies fall into that. The USG has been having private entities do their dirty work under the dishonest rubric that they are private entities. Well so was AT&T and yet they weren't allowed to just interrupt phone calls if the operator didn't like who was talking or about.

Google, YT, FB, Twitter are effectively the phone company. If they are going to fall back on the "private company, we can do whatever the hell we want", then section 203 protections MUST be revoked and they can take their chances in the courts fending off a blizzard of censorship claims.

And the USG MUST IMMEDIATELY confess to their collusion with FB et. al. to censor speech and furthermore require full disclosure of all such communications.

And those of us who will not be silenced will build a parallel platform ecosystem where our views will be respected enough not to be silenced. But this will drive a massive stake thru social cohesion and is not a good path in the long run.
Yeah...but....Constitution.

https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/02/federal-appeals-rules-first-amendment-does-not-apply-to-youtube/


You are indeed welcome to build your own platform and howl at the moon if you like.
 

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This is an extremely pro vaccine thread. It was highly moderated to remove any bad news about the vaccine. The problem is a lot of people are have terrible side effects. Take a look.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CovidVaccinated/new/

There are also real people’s fears about the vaccine and not just fake news is the problem placeholders.
Did you read anything I posted earlier? Side effects from COVID vaccinations are no different to any other vaccines such as flu.
 

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new one this morning.

A Minnesota woman lost her legs after taking the Pfizer vaccine.

Jummai Nache came down with COVID days after taking the Pfizer vaccine. She lost her legs after contracting the disease. She may also lose both hands.

ed. also diagnosed with MIS-A, CDC has no opinion (publicly) on Pfizer vax causing the MIS-A within days of shots.
Hold on - did you even read your own post!

You then she had COVID a few days after vaccination (vaccine is not effective a few days after injection) and one common outcome of COVID is vascular damage causing damage to the extremities.

Seriously this is not 'Woman loses legs after vaccination', it is 'woman loses legs after catching COVID'
 

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Fair enough. But they didn't update their guidance to require clean bills of health before jabbing people, did they? The whole thing reeks of jab everybody and hope we don't have too many cases of things going sideways. Maybe this is a one-off for god knows why, but when your 'preventative' measure has this kind of calamitous result, you might want to rethink the whole cost/benefit analysis and put some giant warning signs up.

0.07% of dying from natural infection, or non-trivial chance of dying within 3 days or 4 months of taking the "safe" jab. Hmm...
AGAIN WRONG.

Go back and read what I posted earlier about side effects and reporting processes. Don't just make stuff up.
 

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I agree but when you have a company that is completely free of any liability, we have to be extra vigilant in reporting side effects and unknown longer term problem. Add in this is a government funded program and it gets even more complicated.

That forum doesn’t exist and doctors can’t speak out for fear of retribution. It’s not a good look. Do you know of any public forums to discuss side effects and treatments of those side effects?
Indeed, and we (they) have been vigilant and quite transparent.

The idea that doctors cannot speak on the matter is absurd. Although, we should not entertain every discredited, crackpot idea that comes down the pike. Not all doctors are 'smart' or even right in the head.
 

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I agree but when you have a company that is completely free of any liability, we have to be extra vigilant in reporting side effects and unknown longer term problem. Add in this is a government funded program and it gets even more complicated.

That forum doesn’t exist and doctors can’t speak out for fear of retribution. It’s not a good look. Do you know of any public forums to discuss side effects and treatments of those side effects?
Complete and utter rubbish. I posted details earlier of exactly how suspected adverse reactions are reported in the UK (US and AUS are very similar). This adverse reporting is carried out by medical professionals to independent regulatory authorities completely separate from the drug companies
 
 




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