Science is now cancelled? [USERS NOW BANNED FOR POLITICS]

[CJJon]

FYI......the N-95 Masks are the BEST we can reasonably buy and they state right on the box ....NOT EFFECTIVE AGAINST COVID OR OTHER VIRUSES!!
Masks are simply used to hide our identity and make us all look like helpless MINIONS!!

And you are using Q tips wrong:

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[CJJon]

asymptomatic spread has long since been debunked.

Total bullshit here.

 

[Sivi70980]

And you are using Q tips wrong:

I totally was using them wrong till my 30's. Actually listened to a podcast all about ear wax. Changed everything. Stuff You Should Know, what a great listen. Also a big fan of Stuff They Don't Want You to Know.

 

[CJJon]

I clarified my post above. If they have symptoms AND the PCR test is done PROPERLY then the test can confirm or indicate that yes you may well have Delta. From the get-go the US medical establishment has been abusing PCR tests on people at 30, 35, even 40 iterations and producing preposterous positivity rates.

I hope for their sake they weren't sent home with instructions to return when they could no longer breathe.

More utter nonsense. The Earth flat too?

 

[CJJon]

It's like as a species we stubbed our toe and instead of shrugging it off, we're throwing ourselves to the floor and acting like a damn toddler about the whole thing. Pitiful.

Good grief, millions dead that otherwise would have lived and that's just like a stubbed toe?

Oh, yeah, you are a denier. Pitiful indeed.

 

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[CJJon]

Okay, I'm just your normal idiot here. This asymptomatic thing always sounds like such BS to me. It's like saying "it just is" or "because I said so". Because nobody can know if they are or aren't asymptomatic it's a label thrown on anyone feeling fine but not falling for every single piece of fear inducing information. Sorry, supposed to be back to lurking, I guess I was triggered lol.

Or ignore facts and the truth because they are scared?

Sorry, but there certainly are ways that asymptomatic spread is measured and studied. No one is just making things up and saying because I said so.

You don't know the basics here like so many that believe the way you do.

 

[Sivi70980]

Good grief, millions dead that otherwise would have lived and that's just like a stubbed toe?

Oh, yeah, you are a denier. Pitiful indeed.

I tend to go off my own experiences instead of any news outlet because it's nothing but convolution.

And yes a stubbed toe. And instead of doing anything about it, we lie there crying while it gets infected and becomes worse and worse. Could have been the loss of a nail and we may instead lose a foot or a leg. Crappy analogy I know. Also impossible to know if those millions would be alive or dead anyway, God's plan and all that right? You're clearly smarter than I am (not being sarcastic or anything) about this stuff but you never give reasons or information as to why we're all idiots. @shogun32 at least makes his information sound good even if it may or may not be trash. It doesn't help a dumbass like me when the only responses you give are "No, you're wrong" or any other similar things. I know at least for myself, I need to be beaten with information before sometimes before I can have my mind changed.

Stopping as I think I'm just typing to type at this point.

 

[Sivi70980]

You don't know the basics here like so many that believe the way you do.

 

[CJJon]

I tend to go off my own experiences instead of any news outlet because it's nothing but convolution.

And yes a stubbed toe. And instead of doing anything about it, we lie there crying while it gets infected and becomes worse and worse. Could have been the loss of a nail and we may instead lose a foot or a leg. Crappy analogy I know. Also impossible to know if those millions would be alive or dead anyway, God's plan and all that right? You're clearly smarter than I am (not being sarcastic or anything) about this stuff but you never give reasons or information as to why we're all idiots. @shogun32 at least makes his information sound good even if it may or may not be trash. It doesn't help a dumbass like me when the only responses you give are "No, you're wrong" or any other similar things. I know at least for myself, I need to be beaten with information before sometimes before I can have my mind changed.

Stopping as I think I'm just typing to type at this point.

You think I don't provide evidence to back up my statements? You just have not been paying attention.

I hardly ever make a reference to a news outlet.

 

[Gregs24]

asymptomatic spread has long since been debunked. We learned back in the caveman days to kill (well shun) the guy with the runny nose.

Again please do not post false information

Viral culture studies suggest that people with SARS-CoV-2 can become infectious one to two days before the onset of symptoms and continue to be infectious up to seven days thereafter

Asymptomatic transmission of covid-19 | The BMJ

Wilmes et al. recently reported in The Lancet Regional Health – Europe that asymptomatic index cases (AIC) play an important role in the transmission and spread of SARS-CoV2 infections

Do asymptomatic carriers of SARS-COV-2 transmit the virus? - The Lancet Regional Health – Europe

 

[Gregs24]

Okay, I'm just your normal idiot here. This asymptomatic thing always sounds like such BS to me. It's like saying "it just is" or "because I said so". Because nobody can know if they are or aren't asymptomatic it's a label thrown on anyone feeling fine but not falling for every single piece of fear inducing information. Sorry, supposed to be back to lurking, I guess I was triggered lol.

You do need to be careful to distinguish between asymptomatic cases (that never develop symptoms) and pre-symptomatic cases where the symptoms show up later. The latter are more of a risk but both can spread the virus as per my other post with links. Unfortunately as with many viral diseases you start shedding virus BEFORE you feel ill hence the reason to be careful.

 

[Gregs24]

nope, if it's "ramping up" based on the perennially FRAUDULENT PCR testing cranked to over 25 cycles, 80-95% of so-called positivity is false. A (edit "positive") PCR test (edit: without symptoms) CAN DOES NOT prove you have a live pathogen. No less than the guy who invented it made that abundantly clear.

Is Delta moving thru the population? Sure is. But look at the death toll - it's nothing compared to previous strains.

Masking didn't work then, it doesn't work now, it never worked the 30 years it's been tried.

(slight edit)

Totally incorrect. PCR testing is NOT fraudulent (provide evidence if you are so certain). PCR testing is extremely sensitive and confirms the presence of viral DNA. It has never and can never tell you whether you are shedding live virus but that is not a secret, it is well understood.

'Delta' strain fatality rates are broadly similar to other strains

How Dangerous is the Delta Variant (B.1.617.2)? (asm.org)

I have already repeatedly provided data to confirm what you are saying about mask wearing is incorrect.

Please STOP posting false information

 

[Gregs24]

Guess I'm not lurking much today haha!

I'm still wondering how spouses/family/roommates of infected are not getting it at near the same rate as the infected if it is in fact so contagious. My only experience with COVID was a soldier getting it while training in a vehicle with several other civilians and soldiers alike. Nobody else to include the guy's roommate got it. At the time there was a shortage of disinfectants too so it's not like the vehicle got properly cleaned by a long shot. Still no other issues. Add to this myself having some sort of infection resulting in fever and feeling/looking like death. I sat in the ER waiting room for several eternities simply wanting a sip of water and unable to get any. Finally just before buying someone else's saliva I was taken back and got some water. Then got COVID tested. While waiting for results, the doctor said "you look like you have COVID". Really?!?! I thought for sure my test was going to be positive even if it wasn't. Luckily this doctor held up to his oath and I was negative. Given fluids and just waited and fever broke. Sent home with nothing but an impending bill. Not 6 hours later I went through another round of fever but I handled it much better. Went a few more rounds each one getting easier and then nothing at all. No clue what it was but my body didn't like it at all and the super reliable all knowing test said it wasn't COVID. Could have been many other things I'm sure. I find it very hard to buy into any of this crap when looking at everything else caused by the fear alone. It's like as a species we stubbed our toe and instead of shrugging it off, we're throwing ourselves to the floor and acting like a damn toddler about the whole thing. Pitiful.

It is important to understand that viral shedding is not uniform. Some people shed VAST quantities of virus (super shedders) and others shed very little, so transmissibility not only varies with environment (masks, social distancing, ventilation etc) but also how much and when virus is being shed. Unfortunately for most cases you simply don't know which category you fit into.

 

[sk47]

And you are using Q tips wrong:

Weak analogy.

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