Science is not cancelled!

[sk47]

Hello; Even tho I no longer can post on the SCIENCE IS CANCELLED thread, I do read the posts. During recent weeks & months ever more damming evidence has emerged about the Covid 19 pandemic. Most recently about one of the greatly prominent persons in charge/influence of official actions during the pandemic. That he kept a fairly detailed diary loaded with self-incriminating statements is astounding. That he did so on a government owned computer is even more astounding. Such government ownership left the diary open to be revealed as it has been.

The last few weeks Gregs has been posting a version of revisionist history in what appears to be an attempt to try to explain away his and others of his ilk's responsibility for the events of the pandemic. That somehow using twisted logic that those in charge whom he diligently supported and cheered did not get things wrong. Those of you who have followed him on this forum will be familiar with my take which I call his "heads I win-tails you lose" approach. Gregs latest posts fit that pattern.

I get why Gregs wants to somehow dismiss the multitude of things we saw, read or personally experienced during the pandemic. He was a self-proclaimed expert during the pandemic and at least within the community of this forum strongly represented the "official" viewpoint many times over. His credibility has been justifiably tarnished due to his actions during the pandemic. So has the credibility of the medical profession for that matter. Keep in mind his stance on NATURAL IMMUNITY, but not the only questionable stance he took. More specifically that those who had survived a Covid 19 infection naturally MUST take a mRNA "vaccine" shot anyway. He cheered when folks with natural immunity were threatened with job loss if they did not take the shots.

I suspect the medical profession has a chance to become credible again. Anyway, I hope so because we need a medical establishment with proper ethical standards. I do not think some have much of a chance as long as they continue to argue as to how they really did not get things wrong when we know what they did.

Among new to me information gleaned from yesterday's senate hearing was a chart showing average deaths associated with medications used during the covid pandemic. Ivermectin was one. There were several on the chart including the mRNA Covid vaccine. Of them all the mRNA vaccine had the greatest number of deaths associated with it. A point being the authorities strongly pushed back on the less lethal medications while pushing hard for the most lethal Covid vaccine shots. I am still considering that bit of information.

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[HoosierDaddy]

Yawn. I always knew he was "full of it" and assumed most people did.

 

[sk47]

Quote from gregs:
"US will lose Measles Elimination status this year. I hope RFK is proud of himself!

Oh and for @Mitch03 and @sk47 (van man) I have already added your puerile likes to this post so that you don't need to bother, because surely even you two cannot find this tragic news funny?

Mitch03 sk47 "

Hello; My emoji was attached to one of his posts. I do not know the breakdown of the measles increase. Got a feeling not all can be laid off on RFK jr. There is likely a real vaccine hesitancy from the Covid 19 vaccine debacle- both because of the official "mandate" type tactic used to push the new "experimental" vaccine into all of us and also because the move the goal post story which went along with the efficacy of the new mRNA vaccine. Went for get the shots and you will not get Covid to get the many shots, and you can get Covid, possibly many times, but maybe you may not be as ill.

I had measles as a child. Not much fun but mumps was worse.

If I read between the lines of this post, it is another attempt to dish on those of us who saw him for what he is some time ago.

I do not want him to be banned for politics necessarily as such censoring of a voice does not appeal to me. However, i do wonder how he can post so much political content as he has in recent days and not be kicked off the thread as I have been for some years now.
I do not think i was quite so blatant back when I was kicked off that thread. I suspect the mods were pressured to quite dissenting voices (dissenting from the OFFICIAL versions of the time). Now it is known that I and others have been proven correct about our stances. An irony someone such as Gregs who is clearly proven wrong by now is still able to post?????

 

[CrazyHippie]

Quote from gregs:
"US will lose Measles Elimination status this year. I hope RFK is proud of himself!

Oh and for @Mitch03 and @sk47 (van man) I have already added your puerile likes to this post so that you don't need to bother, because surely even you two cannot find this tragic news funny?

Mitch03 sk47 "

Hello; My emoji was attached to one of his posts. I do not know the breakdown of the measles increase. Got a feeling not all can be laid off on RFK jr. There is likely a real vaccine hesitancy from the Covid 19 vaccine debacle- both because of the official "mandate" type tactic used to push the new "experimental" vaccine into all of us and also because the move the goal post story which went along with the efficacy of the new mRNA vaccine. Went for get the shots and you will not get Covid to get the many shots, and you can get Covid, possibly many times, but maybe you may not be as ill.

I had measles as a child. Not much fun but mumps was worse.

If I read between the lines of this post, it is another attempt to dish on those of us who saw him for what he is some time ago.

I do not want him to be banned for politics necessarily as such censoring of a voice does not appeal to me. However, i do wonder how he can post so much political content as he has in recent days and not be kicked off the thread as I have been for some years now.
I do not think i was quite so blatant back when I was kicked off that thread. I suspect the mods were pressured to quite dissenting voices (dissenting from the OFFICIAL versions of the time). Now it is known that I and others have been proven correct about our stances. An irony someone such as Gregs who is clearly proven wrong by now is still able to post?????

I have been studying Mr. Gregs' posts for quite a while without engaging in his raving and drooling. He's actually a very intelligent and tenacious person, albeit very misguided and perhaps a bit compulsive. He tends to divert the conversation a lot. His persistent attacks on me are interesting, because we probably agree that US politics are a clown show and that the evolving exposure of the extent of Fauci's lies and the damage that he did to Humanity is worthy of noting. It's all very entertaining, in a strange way.

Banning contributors from sharing ideas, especially when there is vigorous disagreement and debate, is dangerous. Perhaps the moderators have restored your posing privileges on the other thread?

 

[sk47]

I have been studying Mr. Gregs' posts for quite a while without engaging in his raving and drooling. He's actually a very intelligent and tenacious person, albeit very misguided and perhaps a bit compulsive. He tends to divert the conversation a lot. His persistent attacks on me are interesting, because we probably agree that US politics are a clown show and that the evolving exposure of the extent of Fauci's lies and the damage that he did to Humanity is worthy of noting. It's all very entertaining, in a strange way.

Banning contributors from sharing ideas, especially when there is vigorous disagreement and debate, is dangerous. Perhaps the moderators have restored your posing privileges on the other thread?

Hello; No i am still getting a message that I lack privilege to post or interact in the thread. I can only use one of the emojis. I do not know if the use of such emoji has improved over time. I thought for some time I could only use the like one. Now I can choose among a few more.
One other thing is the thread has not shown up as a notice of one which I watch for a long time. I just happen to notice when I check all posts.

As for Fauci, I figure his episode will determine the future of "trust" for the general public for some time to come. That he may walk and the devastation he championed may have a lasting effect. I understand there is a "presidential pardon" in play. But even so if he walks the general public will not have reason to "trust" whomever is his replacement.

I saw a suggestion that that pardon does not apply to state prosecutions. That individual states can bring charges. I do not want a "witch hunt" but do think officials such as Fauci ought to get exactly what they deserve. You know the "no one is above the law" sort of thing.

I normally do not watch senate hearings. Yesterday when I realized what was happening, I could not turn away. It was clear soon enough the 5th amendment was to be invoked so no satisfaction. But watching his face and the slow wearing down as the questions went on. The public humiliation was a good start but not near enough. Appears to be he likely was not a decent guy with good intentions trying his best. People went to jail, lost jobs, were forced to take unnecessary shots, schools were closed on his actions. He ought not get to just "retire".

 

[CrazyHippie]

Hello; No i am still getting a message that I lack privilege to post or interact in the thread. I can only use one of the emojis. I do not know if the use of such emoji has improved over time. I thought for some time I could only use the like one. Now I can choose among a few more.
One other thing is the thread has not shown up as a notice of one which I watch for a long time. I just happen to notice when I check all posts.

As for Fauci, I figure his episode will determine the future of "trust" for the general public for some time to come. That he may walk and the devastation he championed may have a lasting effect. I understand there is a "presidential pardon" in play. But even so if he walks the general public will not have reason to "trust" whomever is his replacement.

I saw a suggestion that that pardon does not apply to state prosecutions. That individual states can bring charges. I do not want a "witch hunt" but do think officials such as Fauci ought to get exactly what they deserve. You know the "no one is above the law" sort of thing.

I normally do not watch senate hearings. Yesterday when I realized what was happening, I could not turn away. It was clear soon enough the 5th amendment was to be invoked so no satisfaction. But watching his face and the slow wearing down as the questions went on. The public humiliation was a good start but not near enough. Appears to be he likely was not a decent guy with good intentions trying his best. People went to jail, lost jobs, were forced to take unnecessary shots, schools were closed on his actions. He ought not get to just "retire".

Well, according to our friend on the other thread,

"At work, I'm constantly doing things differently because I can't just do whatever I want—I have to act in the company's best interests, and especially because I have to take other people's knowledge and opinions into account.
No one would ever think to accuse me of lying because of that."

Apparently, lying can be classified as "doing things differently," in which case its OK.

 

[sk47]

Apparently, lying can be classified as "doing things differently," in which case its OK.

Hello; May I use this. Even better than my 'heads i win; tails you lose" describer of the lad.

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