Rev Match downshift v. Normal downshift

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Most of this can be avoided by straight line braking and gear selection before the corner, so the wheels just slides/skids in the direction you are going without introducing rotation. It only becomes a problem if you are trail braking into a corner. It becomes a real problem if you are at the limit of traction...i.e. a very accomplished driver. Most folks aren't a very accomplished driver (i.e. essentially pro, or that guy that passes you 3 times/session in an MX-5 in the advanced group), so they have some latitude with grip levels that results in a missed apex and a slow track-out.

Ha yep, that guy, see avatar :cheers:

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[jvandy50]

Five pages in, and I didn't see anyone mention the horrible throttle response these cars have. (that's why I opened the thread in the first place)

I blip the throttle on the downshift when I'm driving aggressively, but it's a PITA in my 2016 5.0. The stock tune is so lazy, when I stab the throttle to rev match, it seems like it takes a year or two to hit the desired RPMs.

I bought the car new and I wanted to keep the stock tune in case I have any warranty issues, but the factory tune is awful. And don't even get me started about the hanging revs between gears!!

Typical event which occurs on a daily basis:

Leave an intersection, squeeze the throttle down in first, WOT in second, 7,000 rpms... "whoops, I'm speeding", clutch it out to coast a little, revs hang around 4500rpms for about three full seconds before it returns to idle... and I want to throat punch a Ford calibration engineer!

Jimmy LaRocca tuned my 2011 5.0, and even with the ProCharger, throttle response was crispy clean.

I too feel like I need to floor it for a bit just to match. And the hanging is so weird, never driven anything that did this...pulling a 2 to 5 shift is still iffy because the rpms are too high to do it without waiting a bit.


I've tried driving in chucks and even barefooted, and either I'm getting neuropathy or the car is just not that responsive. I'm ready for a tune

 

[Sharad]

I'm getting neuropathy or the car is just not that responsive. I'm ready for a tune

It's not you, it's the car. I might be heading for a tune as well.

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