PMas cai no tune req

[Charles]

Anyone running the PMAS NO TUNE REQ CAI?

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[Shifting_Gears]

Curious about this as well.

The general consensus is that the stock intake flows well for an NA car and even though an aftermarket CAI may move more air, the increase in IAT’s negates the gains.

However, I’ve seen several dyno claims that showed a peak 12-15hp or so with just a CAI, no tune.

 

[Charles]

Curious about this as well.

The general consensus is that the stock intake flows well for an NA car and even though an aftermarket CAI may move more air, the increase in IAT’s negates the gains.

However, I’ve seen several dyno claims that showed a peak 12-15hp or so with just a CAI, no tune.

On my pp1 I had the roush cai with IATs only 2-5 above outside temp. Throttle response was great. But I traded for a pp2 and was weighing options on a cai with no tune required

 

[Shifting_Gears]

On my pp1 I had the roush cai with IATs only 2-5 above outside temp. Throttle response was great. But I traded for a pp2 and was weighing options on a cai with no tune required

That’s good to know. Did you feel any difference in power other than throttle response?

 

[Charles]

That’s good to know. Did you feel any difference in power other than throttle response?

With resonator and muffler delete was very good. I could pull my buddy in his S197 with vmp (until he got rpm) up in third gear rolling about 45. When I got in my new pp2 it feels very held back.

 

[dn1984]

Curious about this as well.

The general consensus is that the stock intake flows well for an NA car and even though an aftermarket CAI may move more air, the increase in IAT’s negates the gains.

However, I’ve seen several dyno claims that showed a peak 12-15hp or so with just a CAI, no tune.

The PMAS is a hot air intake. I challenge you to find a single dyno test with the hood CLOSED that shows power gains. I had a tune-required PMAS on my old 2012 GT. Had it tuned perfectly after many datalogging sessions. Heat wrapped the whole thing and reduced my IATs by like 20 degrees, but it was still much hotter than the factory intake. Ran consistently slower 1/4 mile times than with the stock CAI. Sold the PMAS, which was a shame because it sounded absolutely badass.

 

[Charles]

The PMAS is a hot air intake. I challenge you to find a single dyno test with the hood CLOSED that shows power gains. I had a tune-required PMAS on my old 2012 GT. Had it tuned perfectly after many datalogging sessions. Heat wrapped the whole thing and reduced my IATs by like 20 degrees, but it was still much hotter than the factory intake. Ran consistently slower 1/4 mile times than with the stock CAI. Sold the PMAS, which was a shame because it sounded absolutely badass.

That’s why I asked if anyone was using it. I haven’t found 1 review on any of the parts websites. If it doesn’t work like it’s supposed to then I’ll see how well the return policy is. I might open up a few of the holes on the intake side to see if that would help but we’ll see. Plus I don’t live or travel in any high traffic areas so I’m constantly moving never at idle more than 3 min.

 

[Shifting_Gears]

The PMAS is a hot air intake. I challenge you to find a single dyno test with the hood CLOSED that shows power gains. I had a tune-required PMAS on my old 2012 GT. Had it tuned perfectly after many datalogging sessions. Heat wrapped the whole thing and reduced my IATs by like 20 degrees, but it was still much hotter than the factory intake. Ran consistently slower 1/4 mile times than with the stock CAI. Sold the PMAS, which was a shame because it sounded absolutely badass.

Yeah I ended up watching some reviews on it and that was pretty much what was stated. Open hood or cruising around, ok. Any time sitting the IAT’s shot up. The gains I’m sure were typical dyno fashion, hood up and fans blowing.

 

[Charles]

Yeah I ended up watching some reviews on it and that was pretty much what was stated. Open hood or cruising around, ok. Any time sitting the IAT’s shot up. The gains I’m sure were typical dyno fashion, hood up and fans blowing.

Where did you find the reviews? I’ve looked and haven’t found any. I even called them today but didn’t receive a call back yet.

 

[Amaury]

Let me clarify something most people can't understand with cold air intakes. The purpose of this systems is to work while moving. If you plan to drag race, it will hurt you due to no airflow and getting the engine bay hot during the staging time. It is better to use the stock air box for drag racing and just replace the drop in filter. This intakes are perfect for the guy that likes doing highway runs, circuit racing, mountain runs. They do work as advertised like them or not. I had the no tune in my 15th LE and I gained around 15whp in a Mustang Dyno. An Open hood dyno run is a better way to try get similar temperatures in the engine bay as if you were driving in the street with the airflow...

 

[Shifting_Gears]

Thus the tradeoff for daily drivers who do have to contend with some traffic. I’ve had my IAT’s get into the 120-130 range with a stock intake just due to where I live and the ambient temp.

 

[Shifting_Gears]

Where did you find the reviews? I’ve looked and haven’t found any. I even called them today but didn’t receive a call back yet.

This is the video I was thinking of. The car isn’t technically stock. But the tune wasn’t adjusted for the intake. It made more power than the stock intake but lost 3hp with the hood closed.

 

[Charles]

This is the video I was thinking of. The car isn’t technically stock. But the tune wasn’t adjusted for the intake. It made more power than the stock intake but lost 3hp with the hood closed.

I want to see a review for the 18-19 model.

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