Farley Stokes Hybrid Mustang Rumors, Says 'Nah' to All-Electric Mustang

[Twin Turbo]

And if it's still using the V8, that makes me very happy!

It seems Jim Farley is happy to (indirectly) talk about future Mustang products. He did, if you recall, post on social media asking if Ford should be a roadgoing GT3 (aka the GTD).

Farley reiterated that the company is perhaps more willing to keep gasoline powered vehicles around for longer than previously thought, via electrification. “We cannot keep saying [companies are] all-electric or all-hybrid, and there’s nothing in between. That’s baloney. There’s going to be lots of gray degrees of partial electrification that’s still good for the planet. You can still have that emotional experience. I think that’s where we’re going to be for a while,” Farley said. “So when you say: Could it be a fully electric Mustang coupe? Nah, probably not. But could there be a partially electrified Mustang coupe—and it be world-class? Yeah.”

https://www.motor1.com/news/683604/ford-ceo-says-no-electric-mustang-yeah-hybrid/

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[Zig]

A v8 can generate more electricity than any ev.

 

[Bikeman315]

A Mustang hybrid, yes. A V8 hybrid unlikely. The car would still need the the V8 to drive the rear wheels. That would require the hybrid motors (1 or 2) to be up front. The weight balance would be totally off. Now you could use a transaxle like the GTD but then the cost would be prohibitive. IMHO a hybrid would only be viable with the 2.3 Ecoboost. And honestly anyone seriously considering a hybrid would probably prefer it.

 

[Twin Turbo]

I'm thinking this would be primarily for markets where the V8 alone will struggle in the not too distant future.....Australia, Europe, but if it works for the rest of the world, there's no reason the US wouldn't get it.

In the UK, they've dropped the Ecoboost (since 2019) as sales were 80/20 in favour of the V8. So, we still want our V8s and going hybrid may be the only way we can keep the Mustang (coupe) nameplate alive outside the US.

Another article on the same subject (from Australia). High performance and emotional experience.....this, to me, is the V8 he's talking about. Time will tell, I guess

“I don’t know about 10 years from now, but for the 10 years we’re in now, a partial electrification is the perfect solution for high-performance [vehicle] customers,” he said.

“You can cherry-pick the electric drivetrain to get everything you need from it, but you don’t have to walk away from the emotional part of the experience.

“There’s going to be lots of grey degrees of partial electrification that’s still good for the planet.

“You can still have that emotional experience. I think that’s where we’re going to be for a while.”



https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/ford-mustang-hybrid-all-but-confirmed-142200/

 

[Zig]

I'm thinking this would be primarily for markets where the V8 alone will struggle in the not too distant future.....Australia, Europe, but if it works for the rest of the world, there's no reason the US wouldn't get it.

In the UK, they've dropped the Ecoboost (since 2019) as sales were 80/20 in favour of the V8. So, we still want our V8s and going hybrid may be the only way we can keep the Mustang (coupe) nameplate alive outside the US.

Another article on the same subject (from Australia). High performance and emotional experience.....this, to me, is the V8 he's talking about. Time will tell, I guess

“I don’t know about 10 years from now, but for the 10 years we’re in now, a partial electrification is the perfect solution for high-performance [vehicle] customers,” he said.

“You can cherry-pick the electric drivetrain to get everything you need from it, but you don’t have to walk away from the emotional part of the experience.

“There’s going to be lots of grey degrees of partial electrification that’s still good for the planet.

“You can still have that emotional experience. I think that’s where we’re going to be for a while.”



https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/ford-mustang-hybrid-all-but-confirmed-142200/

As long [as] doesn’t rely solely on the other. Fully integrated yet fully independent otherwise fuster cluck, imo.

 

[The Wizard]

You're missing the real question which is: how can a future Mustang beat a high-end Tesla in the quarter mile?

Providing more power to smoke the rear wheels faster isn't gunna do it.
Providing ruffly equal torque to all four wheels WILL do it.
Couple different ways of doing this. A performance hybrid is one...

 

[9secondko]

Posted a while back that. A hybrid makes sense and that even a smaller v8 that basically supplied energy to the electric motors would be huge. Let the ev motors launch the thing in record time while getting juiced up by the v8 - and keeping that soulful soundtrack with just enough vibration.

the countach/eray way of doing it doesn’t seem long-term. But a nice Segway. Future hybrids may be giving the brunt of the work to the electric motors rather than gas as it is now.

will be very interesting to see how Ford does it.

I do think Farley is a bit of a whiz at sneakily developing the next Mustang platform. The gtd is laying the groundwork without costing a big debt upfront. Instead, ford will be profiting off the development We’ll see a gtd followed by more affordable cobra/gt500, then see the fruit of that in concert with the next platform.

‘’’all of a sudden there is light at the end of a rather daunting tunnel.

 

[Karguy]

I think this is great news as long as it is a system that Ferrari,AMG,BMW,Porsche is using,pretty much a electric flywheel to add power and help with braking ! Instead of carrying the addition of heavy batteries and electric motors…Which is detrimental to performance and makes only sense on short distance commuting.Otherwise the only electric motor and battery should be the one for the starter firing up the V8…

 

[keithwalton]

I think this is great news as long as it is a system that Ferrari,AMG,BMW,Porsche is using,pretty much a electric flywheel to add power and help with braking ! Instead of carrying the addition of heavy batteries and electric motors…Which is detrimental to performance and makes only sense on short distance commuting.Otherwise the only electric motor and battery should be the one for the starter firing up the V8…

Do you mean the mild hybrid ? which uses energy recovered during coasting / braking to provided a boost whilst the turbo spools up ?
They typically have an extra battery under the bonnet but instead of 12v lead acid they're 48v lithium ion.

Most new EU cars have gone MHEV in the last few years, especially anything that's Euro 7 'ready'

Unless you mean the plugin hybrid (PHEV) that have a bigger battery and can run on EV only mode but only for a short distance (eg C63)

 

[Karguy]

Do you mean the mild hybrid ? which uses energy recovered during coasting / braking to provided a boost whilst the turbo spools up ?
They typically have an extra battery under the bonnet but instead of 12v lead acid they're 48v lithium ion.

Most new EU cars have gone MHEV in the last few years, especially anything that's Euro 7 'ready'

Unless you mean the plugin hybrid (PHEV) that have a bigger battery and can run on EV only mode but only for a short distance (eg C63)

I thought you had me on ignore...LOL I mean the system that is light and adds power like Ferrari uses on the 296 and Porsche will be using on their next 911 variants...Whatever they call it , mild hybrid is fine with me as long as you dont get burdened down as in more weight with big bayyery and electric motors...Small battery and electric flywheel to add performance would be great especially beneficial to a low torque / small displacement / tall gearing powerrplant like a 5.0 Coyote ! Same would work on the F150 which is even heavier to spread the developement costs...Of course starting with a 5.8 would be even better...LOL

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