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But wouldn't a MR car with stiffer swaybars and wider tires ride and handle even more phenomenally?
There's a lot involved.

However much transient understeer bias Ford builds in is going to matter, and short of fitting a DSC controller (and learning how to use it), that's out of user control. And tuning MR is definitely more involved than learning how to tune double-adjustable hydraulic-only shocks.

For me, having the ability to tune whatever dampers are on my car means far more than the ride comfort benefits offered by MR and having to live with somebody else's damping preferences. Give me the option of being able to tune that MR and I'd be more than willing to give it a shot.

I've been told that MR defaults to full soft upon loss of power (duh) and possibly so upon loss of signal. As rare as such situations are, they're at least something to consider.


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Glad to know the upstate has such fine roads.


Here in Columbia the roads are the suck. Did not used to be that way but our government has failed us miserably in road upkeep.


Looking forward to a 2019 with Magneride....of course most cars will seem like a cushion compared to the RS.
There are quite a few voters here in the upstate. ;)
 

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Why have a thread asking for opinions if you are already set on what you want, no ifs ands or buts?.
AGM never asked about MR at all. That started at about post #7 by somebody else and it's been a sales pitch for MR ever since. Can't say as I blame him for showing resistance.


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Magneride, don't buy it's rubbish. As are Brembo brakes. The 10 speed auto is a slush box. PP1 what a load of air head fluff. DI engine I'd rather eat bicycle spokes. The Digi dash is pure unreadable, unreliable, nasty looking stupidity. And those new tyres are just utter rubbish.
But all these are totally insignificant compared to the hideous front that made me sick in my mouth.
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So...to "kickstart" this old thread again with an update. I have been doing a lot of research and searching the interwebs for an already built 18 mustang vice ordering a 19. I think I will get a better deal on an 18 already at a dealership, vice ordering a 19. I found a dealer who has a base 18 GT; the only options are: Ruby Red, 301A Package, automatic transmission and 3.55 gears. Since the car won't be my primary everyday driver, I think it is perfect: it has, in my opinion, only the essential options required for a mustang. The MSRP is 40,480. The dealership offered a price of $34,500...and I counter-offered $33,000. Considering the dealership has had this car in their inventory for 4+ months, it is a base trim car, the low level of factory options an I will have to travel out of state (three states actually) to pick it up, is $33,000 a fair purchase offer price...or should I negotiate for a lower purchase price?

A second question (or option I suppose) is...if given the choice, how many of you would opt to purchase a premium heavily (almost fully loaded, minus the MR and B&O radio option) optioned Ecoboost over a base lightly optioned GT? The dealership has a model year 19 ecoboost, 401A Package, Performance Package, automatic transmission, Enhanced Security Package, and optional 19" Luster Performance Package Wheels. The MSRP of (if I remember correctly) the car is $40,230. The dealership's asking price for it, after rebates and discounts is, $33,800. Thanks for your input, thoughts and feedback...I appreciate it.
 

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I've read through all 104 comments on this and good lord, the aggressive push from some on MR is ridiculous. I previously worked sales (of which about a year was in commission sales) for almost a decade and I never even got as aggressive as some of the people here. Nor have I had a salesman/saleswoman get that aggressive with me as a consumer. Time for everyone to step back and help the OP with HIS decision, not interject their own desires & requirements for the car.

AGM, my advice to you may not be very valuable as I'm a NA over FI guy. I can't say I'd seriously consider the EB Mustang for any reason over the GT. I think you may be getting in your own head and perpetually bouncing around on a decision and unable to commit to any thing. Perhaps the smart thing to do is to stop everything related to the car for a month, then come back to it with fresh eyes and make your decision. It seems to me that you may be in information overload from all of the research and it's conceivable that any decision you make will result in some level of regret because you didn't go the other way with your choice.

All of that said, I'd take the offer you made on the custom order. That package sounds pretty damn near perfect and will check all the boxes you seek to fulfill.

All the best my friend!
 

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So...to "kickstart" this old thread again with an update.

I found a dealer who has a base 18 GT; the only options are: Ruby Red, 301A Package, automatic transmission and 3.55 gears. Since the car won't be my primary everyday driver, I think it is perfect: it has, in my opinion, only the essential options required for a mustang.

A second question (or option I suppose) is...if given the choice, how many of you would opt to purchase a premium heavily (almost fully loaded, minus the MR and B&O radio option) optioned Ecoboost over a base lightly optioned GT?
Have your thoughts on EB reliability changed in the last month?

You already have a fairly heavily optioned car in the Maxima. If you keep that car, do you really want your Mustang to be more like that, or skewed more toward performance and lighter on the amenities? If you sell/trade the Max and go light with the options on the Mustang, would you miss any/many of the Maxima's amenities?

FWIW, if the 18's are still causing any hesitation about shopping base trim, it might not be all that hard to find a 19" wheel & tire setup as new take-offs. Either dispose of the 18's as new take-offs or keep them to store the car on during the months where it's not likely to get much use.


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You should get at least 8k off MSRP.
If you registered on Ford website, requested brochures, done all the marketing bs(5minutes) you shoukd have an email for private cash $1500.
Current incentive is $2500.
Then add in dealer margin $4500 and you should be at 8-9k off sticker.
Id go GT 10R80 PP1 over EB. S550 was designed around V8. I enjoy driving this as much as my NSX.
Also, Base GT will hold way better resale value. The base cars are always more competitive on resale as used buyers are more price sensitive and typically will go with base GT or PP1 GT over any EB.
Paid 29,5 Nov 2015 for base GT, sold (trade in) 23,5 July 2018 after 16k miles.
I negotiated cash price on 2018 first at $3000 off Ford cash plus $4000 off dealer margin. Then several hundred more haggling.
Houston: Planet Ford, Autonation Katy - just round robbin price between these two and you’ll eventually get to same bottom dollar.
Find biggest regional dealers and play them against each other via internet sales.
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