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JRoman
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Good buy i feel. These have sold as high as 137k in the past. I could have bought one for 78k a yr ago from a MI dealer but decided to pass as i was getting a R. But at least my friend was able to capitalize on it.
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I agree and thought this beautiful car would go for more.
Having said that and in order to get top dollar ($100K and over) for a 2015 GT350 I suggest that serious buyers are looking for a car that has delivered miles (35 to 50), window sticker in passenger window, plastic still on the seats/steering wheel, decals on outside of car etc. The tinted windows, clear bra on the front clip and low miles were not deal breakers for this car but suggest that it may have had a small deterrent for some buyers.
After spending time with the consignor I was hoping for the best for him but unfortunately it is a very finicky crowd at BJ and they seem to appreciate resto mods more than cars of this nature with some classic muscle cars such as the '70 Cougar Eliminator Boss 302 also going lower than I had thought as it was a steal for the buyer IMO. A very rare numbers matching car with just and outstanding restoration.
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I had two buddies there selling a 69 Camaro Z28 convertible in mint condition. All documentation present showing matching everything.
They got way less than they had expected.
I tend to agree. These cars all went for much less than I would have guessed.
Looks like car industry is cooling. My guess is because there are just so many awesome cars, old and new, on the market for purchase.
Siggy550
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I've been watching on TV most of the week. Very surprised at some of the purchase prices. This '15 GT350 went for about what I thought. I couldn't see it hitting the $100K mark. Not desirable enough IMO, especially not with some miles driven on it.
Question for some of you really into car collecting. Do any of you feel a shift is on horizon? I'm 41. I appreciate the '60s muscle cars and think they are cool, but I have no desire to own one as they are out of my generation. But I have a strong desire to hopefully own some of the cars from the 80s and 90s that I drooled over as a kid. I'd take an Acura NSX, Lotus Esprit, Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4 anyday before an older car. Those were some of my dreams and certainly could be realized at their prices now. Especcially the American Trans Ams, Camaros, Mustangs SVTs, etc.
Will the industry start to see more of me in next 10-20 years? Or am I rare and older cars continue as the benchmark? Just curious what people think.
Question for some of you really into car collecting. Do any of you feel a shift is on horizon? I'm 41. I appreciate the '60s muscle cars and think they are cool, but I have no desire to own one as they are out of my generation. But I have a strong desire to hopefully own some of the cars from the 80s and 90s that I drooled over as a kid. I'd take an Acura NSX, Lotus Esprit, Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4 anyday before an older car. Those were some of my dreams and certainly could be realized at their prices now. Especcially the American Trans Ams, Camaros, Mustangs SVTs, etc.
Will the industry start to see more of me in next 10-20 years? Or am I rare and older cars continue as the benchmark? Just curious what people think.
Bosshog
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The rule of thumb is once the 16 year old in you has money to buy a toy car then you tend to look back at what was unobtainable in your youth. NSX's were supposed to be the next big thing after the Porsche market - so they are inflated now. They are kinda selling, but still a lot of really expensive ones on the market that are 30-40K more today than they were in 2015. The new one coming out was supposed to drive pricing up . . . which prices are up, but the new NSX is pretty much a flop today (tomorrow who knows.)
Porsche's have been on a decline since 2014 and still inflated in pricing... kind've a stale market, lots of inventory.
I honestly would be looking at Subaru STI's first gen, non modified, bone stock w/50k miles or under, First gen US Lancer EVO RS/MR bone stock, non modified. Saleen Foxbody's can be had for a great deal still, 93' Cobra's are coming up in price but have a lot of room north to move ... Early AMG car's (C36,C43,E55)
E36 M3's still cheap, E46 M3's in the right colors (Laguna Seca Blue, Phoenix Yellow) Integra Type R's have been REAL strong lately. .
Also, I think today we have quite a few cars that will definitely be collectibles. . . And if you buy new you always have the one owner story, all records, can spec how you want it, etc, etc.
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^^^
I have a lot of love for older cars. More love, at 42, for the cars you mention as I too grew up drooling over them and checking them out at car shows.
But they are all very different from the cars of today. Today the power is immense and the driving experience is much better. Cars of yesterday are not nearly as comfortable and don't have any of the same accoutrements.
I'd love to have a minty Supra or an Eagle Talon. But they can't come close to comparing with even average cars of today. I'd likely take any recent Camaro or Mustang (as long as it has the big engine) over a car built 20 years ago.
I have a lot of love for older cars. More love, at 42, for the cars you mention as I too grew up drooling over them and checking them out at car shows.
But they are all very different from the cars of today. Today the power is immense and the driving experience is much better. Cars of yesterday are not nearly as comfortable and don't have any of the same accoutrements.
I'd love to have a minty Supra or an Eagle Talon. But they can't come close to comparing with even average cars of today. I'd likely take any recent Camaro or Mustang (as long as it has the big engine) over a car built 20 years ago.
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Maybe I'm an odd-ball, but I have no urge to own muscle cars of my youth. Don't get me wrong, I still appreciate those cars. I just prefer new technology. As an example, I had a '69 GTO in high school in the early 70's. It was a hoot. But I've moved on. The GTO was hard-pressed to get over 1 hp per cubic inch without significant mods. The car considered turning and stopping as mere "suggestions." The interior was 60's plastic. The exterior wanted to rust. I spent a lot of time wrenching on it.
This is why I have a '17 GT350 in my garage. Almost 50 years later, it is light-years ahead of the old Goat. Perhaps this is the basis for the restomod movement. Admittedly, I get nostalgic for the old car now and then. Perhaps it was the "alternate use" of the back seat, I dunno. All it takes is a look at an old muscle car in a show and I recall just how primitive they are. Then I get in my GT350 and drive off with a major grin on my face.
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Mspeedster
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What was the color and stripe combo of the '15 GT350 sold at Barrett Jackson?
I'm curious as sometimes color can affect the bidding.
I'm curious as sometimes color can affect the bidding.
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With all due respect I'd like to see a couple of pictures of your buddies '69 Z28 convertible as that car does not exist.
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OK, it had a vinyl top. It threw my off.
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28--201790
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28--201790
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