Automatic vs Manual

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Guys, just be happy Ford still gives you the option of your manual...

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[ColdShotxx]

I am shopping for my mustang right now and was set on manual but after test driving an auto I am undecided. I am curious, you guys choosing auto, would you have selected manual if the auto didn't have paddle shifters? -Was that the determining factor?

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I am shopping for my mustang right now and was set on manual but after test driving an auto I am undecided. I am curious, you guys choosing auto, would you have selected manual if the auto didn't have paddle shifters? -Was that the determining factor?

I have only used the paddle shifters two or three times just to see what they do. The computer does a much better job of knowing what gear the car should be in than I could ever do.

 

[berserker_sid]

I am shopping for my mustang right now and was set on manual but after test driving an auto I am undecided. I am curious, you guys choosing auto, would you have selected manual if the auto didn't have paddle shifters? -Was that the determining factor?

brother its ur call. I mean... i wanted both worlds.. sometimes i am just lazy for manual so i got auto...But 70 % i use my shifters... but u noe.. while going to work and shit... heheh... i prefer auto in traffic

 

[TWilliams]

brother its ur call. I mean... i wanted both worlds.. sometimes i am just lazy for manual so i got auto...But 70 % i use my shifters... but u noe.. while going to work and shit... heheh... i prefer auto in traffic

Same for me.

 

[Anvil3]

I went with a manual. I also ride motorcycles more than I drive every year, so it's not a hardship for me at all. I enjoy the manual and normally don't use the car for my commute.

However, I did drive an auto EB and liked it more than I thought I would. For daily driving it's fine and it works pretty darn good in sport/manual mode. I could have almost gone either way.

One note: At delivery, my manual was a bit notchy and tended to grind second gear unless I was very careful with the accelerator and the clutch. 1200 miles later it's beautifully smooth. Mine needed a bit of break-in (just like some of my motorcycles).

 

[DJinAC]

Went with a manual. Best anti theft device!

I never thought this would be the case but it is. I liked my 14 Gt with an auto but I really love the EB with a manual

 

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[Norm Peterson]

Obviously it might have been different when you were learning to drive, but most of the cars I've owned weren't even offered with a manual transmission -- early '80's Chrysler Town and Country; mid '90's Taurus; early '90's Mercedes 560SEL; a couple of '70's Corollas which were offered with manuals but had 3-speed autos in the ones I owned -- and most of the cars people I know drive aren't offered with manuals, or are only offered with manuals in the absolute cheapest versions (Hyundai Sonatas, bunch of Lexus RX's, Chevy Malibus, Honda CRV's).

MT sedans were available at least up through the early 2000's in trims well above base - Nissan's Maxima, Mazda's 626 and 6, occasionally Toyota's Camry. My 2001 Maxima is a 5MT. As was the 1979 Chevy Malibu that I owned from brand new up until 2012. They could be found new, although you had to look/do a little research. Don't know about the used market, been away from that for a very long time.

To the best of my limited knowledge of SUVs, they have never (or at best extremely rarely) offered a MT version. I wouldn't ever own one of those things regardless of transmission type, so I simply haven't put any effort into finding much out about them.

I mean, I've raced rallies with my friend's rally team, but even there it's an Audi A4 with a DSG. Manuals just aren't a thing anybody uses any more.

In your neck of the woods, I'm sure that's true and been true for longer than in many other places. If you aren't even exposed to a MT as you're growing up, you're less likely to choose it.

Jimmy ... Its Norm and putting any points in front of him is banging head against wall.

No matter what you say... there will be a statement,." In my times when i started driving"

For things that were more common back then, probably before your time, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by hearing from those who were. It doesn't have to change your mind beyond prying it at least open enough to listen.

My question... No one cares or bothers ... when you started driving... its present time we are talking about...

When you started driving there are zillions of things car didn had.

And it didn't matter then what things you personally expect today that they didn't have. In large part, those things are still unnecessary.

Norm Sir.. You need to accept the new times ... and yes its hard to get over old practices... But i guess you have to...or else you will keep on cribbing about new world .

One thing that noone can deny is yes... YOUR experience as driver and i am saying for myself.. I am not even 1 % of driver you are...

Cars have come a along in past 5 years.. Then what should i do.. i would compare yes... but i would crib about it... Its called acceptance to the change.

agreed... thats what...same argument.. noone gets the base point ACCEPT THE CHANGE

I'd be ashamed of myself for accepting changes that I did not agree with just because somebody else thought I was supposed to. Blanket acceptance without questioning it at all is for sheep and lemmings.

For changes I would accept on my own, I need no convincing from anybody. For those I would not, no convincing is possible (although I do take reasonable arguments/discussion under advisement).

Guys, just be happy Ford still gives you the option of your manual...

Trust me, I am.


Norm

 

[15GTBEN]

^^ maximum reliability LOL manual transmission are more durable ane reliable than automatics

6r80>MT82 from a durability standpoint, not even close.

 

[berserker_sid]

MT sedans were available at least up through the early 2000's in trims well above base - Nissan's Maxima, Mazda's 626 and 6, occasionally Toyota's Camry. My 2001 Maxima is a 5MT. As was the 1979 Chevy Malibu that I owned from brand new up until 2012. They could be found new, although you had to look/do a little research. Don't know about the used market, been away from that for a very long time.

To the best of my limited knowledge of SUVs, they have never (or at best extremely rarely) offered a MT version. I wouldn't ever own one of those things regardless of transmission type, so I simply haven't put any effort into finding much out about them.



In your neck of the woods, I'm sure that's true and been true for longer than in many other places. If you aren't even exposed to a MT as you're growing up, you're less likely to choose it.




For things that were more common back then, probably before your time, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain by hearing from those who were. It doesn't have to change your mind beyond prying it at least open enough to listen.



And it didn't matter then what things you personally expect today that they didn't have. In large part, those things are still unnecessary.





I'd be ashamed of myself for accepting changes that I did not agree with just because somebody else thought I was supposed to. Blanket acceptance without questioning it at all is for sheep and lemmings.

For changes I would accept on my own, I need no convincing from anybody. For those I would not, no convincing is possible (although I do take reasonable arguments/discussion under advisement).



Trust me, I am.


Norm

i know its hard sir...My Grand dad also gives same arguments as welll you know...

Times have changed.. requirements have... embrace the change because things will change every few years..

New tech u might not like some...even i don like few ... BUt i don crib about them either.

yes your driving experience is something none of us can have...you knowledge... and i always stand by it.. That driving 60 years is not a small stuff...

Buts till all these things are requirement of time . You never know... in few years people hate AT and be back at MT.

 

[Jamo]

I was in a dealer yesterday and the guy said that they didn't have any manuals, and that 90% of the customers want auto. I knew that wasn't true and that he was just trying to sell his autos that no one wants and I ended up telling him that I was offended by that comment. He walked away and left me to another saleswoman.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I was in a dealer yesterday and the guy said that they didn't have any manuals, and that 90% of the customers want auto. I knew that wasn't true and that he was just trying to sell his autos that no one wants and I ended up telling him that I was offended by that comment. He walked away and left me to another saleswoman.

Yeah, that's not true.

The Subaru BRZ is the only car sold in America where more than half the sales go to manual transmissions. Every single other car that offers both a manual and automatic has more than half the sales going to automatics (yes, even the Miata, and the Scion FR-S). The Mustang was at a 50/50 take rate until 2011, and it's slipped below that since then (can't find any 2014 numbers).

 

[Norm Peterson]

i know its hard sir...My Grand dad also gives same arguments as welll you know...

Times have changed.. requirements have... embrace the change because things will change every few years..

New tech u might not like some...even i don like few ... BUt i don crib about them either.

Why don't you? I think you should, if only to exercise some individuality.

If the not-too-distant future holds autonomous vehicles, will you still look at change as being unquestionably good or will you become more willing to voice a contrary opinion or two? Serious question, but you don't have to answer it here.

yes your driving experience is something none of us can have...you knowledge... and i always stand by it.. That driving 60 years is not a small stuff...

I appreciate that, and I know you've mentioned it before. Though in the interests of accuracy, 60 years ago I was at best only driving go-karts.

The mindset I'm trying to get across is not just about the driving. It's about self-reliance generally. As it happened, the cold side connector to my hot water heater sprung a leak sometime this morning or possibly last night, and I ended up having to chase down a new one and install it earlier this afternoon. There was no thought involved in deciding to do every bit of the job myself, because I'm 'wired' to do all kinds of things myself. After inspection of the failure, it's even possible that the old connector might be refurbish-able, which I might tackle so I have a back-up.

Buts till all these things are requirement of time . You never know... in few years people hate AT and be back at MT.

Perhaps. Maybe it'll take autonomous vehicles to get more people to actually want to become more involved in that sort of thing.


Norm

 

[evo8904]

Don't know how to drive a manual, and am afraid of destroying the engine with an accidental shift into first gear at 65 mph.

I shift into first at 65 mph all of the time. I heard that it is good for the MT-82.

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