Confused about UPR dual valve and clean side catch cans!

Can anyone explain why my EB 2.3 needs a clean-side catch can when it already has the dual-valve CC installed? When I ordered the dual valve, UPR stated that the dual valve kit was all I needed for a complete catch can system.
Now UPR seems to be saying that I should also add a clean side CC in addition to the dual valve. If that is true, then UPR did not really understand what the dual valve system was supposed to solve or fix.

tsunami said:

Can anyone explain why my EB 2.3 needs a clean-side catch can when it already has the dual-valve CC installed? When I ordered the dual valve, UPR stated that the dual valve kit was all I needed for a complete catch can system.
Now UPR seems to be saying that I should also add a clean side CC in addition to the dual valve. If that is true, then UPR did not really understand what the dual valve system was supposed to solve or fix.

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The differences between the UPR Single Valve Catch Can and the Dual Valve Catch Can.

UPR Single Valve Catch Can is a single source vacuum and will catch oil on any vehicle, but does not have a second source of vacuum to utilize during boost and therefore will not properly evacuate the crankcase at WOT.

UPR Dual Valve Catch Can is a dual source vacuum and will catch oil on any vehicle. Most importantly is its ability to utilize a second vacuum source during WOT and properly evacuate the crankcase at WOT.

Allowing the primary vacuum source to close once it's under boost and rely on the vacuum at the turbo inlet during WOT to properly evacuate the crankcase and outperform any single valve catch can system.

UPR Clean Side Catch Can is a catch can that filters the vacuum and pressure that flows regularly through the clean side of the catch can that routes back into the intake tube. All EcoBoost cars and trucks have this sore spot and oil has been getting pushed through it at WOT.This has become the culprit for the white dreaded white smoke on EcoBoost Mustangs and Trucks. My new 2015 Expedition with the 3.5L and it smoked out the clean side as a Dual Valve Catch Can addressed the vacuum source and consistently makes more power at WOT.

It does not address the clean side of the engine's PCV system. All the Ecoboost trucks absolutely have to run the Clean Side Separators and now we have been updating them to the new Clean Side Catch Can and eliminate oil travel. We have a great understanding of what these engines need and the 2.3L engine did not present any problems on the clean side originally. As time went on with the excessive blow-by and the 20+psi of boost put out with a factory vehicle is just enough to consistently move oil until it makes its way into the turbo inlet.

We are always working on new challenges these vehicles present and the fact as the boost levels increase the oil in the PCV system. Another new item these vehicles are going to need is a billet PCV valve, which we have in the works as well. Even the newest 3.5L EcoBoost can only be set up with a UPR Dual Valve Catch Can and the UPR Clean Side Catch Can in order to eliminate oil making it to the turbo inlet.

This is what's required to work on the 3.5L Ecoboost vehicles and has become industry standard if you want the absolute best protection and no chance of oil getting by.




I hope this helps everyone understand the functions and applications each setup is designed for.

Joe

[MENTION=12998]UPRjoe[/MENTION] & [MENTION=19118]Tune+[/MENTION]

So, I'm going to bump this old thread to try to figure out the best path for me and maybe others in the same situation... I have a downpipe, and had not seen smoke until I sat in a line like 30 minutes with the car idling this week. I also have a single valve UPR catch can with a check valve & CFM Valve Cover Breather.

Which choice is better?

1- Dump single valve catch can I own, sell it and upgrade to a dual?
2- Keep single valve can, and add a clean side catch can?

I know gutting the PCV would likely be the only solution to be smoke free. But, what would the best upgrade path be with my existing single valve catch can & breather?

neodark said:

[MENTION=12998]UPRjoe[/MENTION] & [MENTION=19118]Tune+[/MENTION]

So, I'm going to bump this old thread to try to figure out the best path for me and maybe others in the same situation... I have a downpipe, and had not seen smoke until I sat in a line like 30 minutes with the car idling this week. I also have a single valve UPR catch can with a check valve & CFM Valve Cover Breather.

Which choice is better?

1- Dump single valve catch can I own, sell it and upgrade to a dual?
2- Keep single valve can, and add a clean side catch can?

I know gutting the PCV would likely be the only solution to be smoke free. But, what would the best upgrade path be with my existing single valve catch can & breather?

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The CORRECT setup for the Ecoboost Mustang is the UPR Dual Valve Catch Can and the UPR Clean Side Catch Can. This system is the only setup that works seamlessly with one another as they were designed to work SERIES with the PCV Clean Side and the Dirty Side to CONTROL oil at both ends and keep your intake and combustion chambers oil free.

This is how we beat the OIL INGESTION at the throttle body and the dump right before the turbo inlet which is what always causes the white smoke since it feeds oil directly into the turbo inlet polluting the entire system before the CAC / Intercooler. This system is the difference between keeping your engine together or torching the pistons from detonation.

I can be PM'd for more information and special setups.

Joe