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I'm assuming both in question will be S650?

Falc'man said:

I'm assuming both in question will be S650?

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Good question.

Either swansongs for the S550........but then you'd think the work required would be better spent on the S650/S550 v3/'21MY refresh.

Twin Turbo said:

Good question.

Either swansongs for the S550........but then you'd think the work required would be better spent on the S650/S550 v3/'21MY refresh.

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S650 will start by 2021CY (2022MY) and there won’t be any (Mustang) Hybrids prior S650

Timeline for me looks like this:

- Before mid 2019 we'll see a batch of GT500s. They'd be MY19.

- Then no change for the MY20 GT500/R.

- In 2020 new S650 rocks up with atmo V8 hybrid. Lets call that a Cobra for argument's sake. Possibly an MY21. This alone will be monster. Could it even be a the next GT350? I'm just trying to imagine a ~575hp Voodoo aided by an electric motor or 3. And DCT.

- Then if said beast is coming after the atmo hybrid we're looking at MY22. That's another 3 years.

Edit: just saw your post now Farruko.

Yeah, I'd have a long long wait for the straight line bruiser. I'm gonna take another route, unless this thing does come with higher HP than what has been told here.

apparently Mike Levine says the dash shot does have "easter eggs"

https://www.motorauthority.com/news...mustang-shelby-gt500-come-with-772-horsepower

Farruko said:

A few weeks ago I realized that BmacIL covered pretty much it. Look into his comments, it’s not that hard

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I looked, that guy has a lot of post! Also he claims a hybrid for S550 will happen! I’m assuming a last hurrah type thing.

Farruko said:

S650 will start by 2021CY (2022MY) and there won’t be any (Mustang) Hybrids prior S650

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Check with your brother about what this all is again.
:gossip:

Falc'man said:

- In 2020 new S650 rocks up with atmo V8 hybrid. Lets call that a Cobra for argument's sake. Possibly an MY21. This alone will be monster. Could it even be a the next ANTI GT350?

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Fixed that for you. Adding a bunch of weight and complexity is pretty much the opposite of the GT350 tradition. I hope Ford saves that crap for the GT500 or some effete Lincoln luxo-mobile that doesn't need to save weight.

Mach 1 would have been a good name for a Hybrid V8 Mustang.... It sucks that they will not use it.

Hack said:

Fixed that for you. Adding a bunch of weight and complexity is pretty much the opposite of the GT350 tradition. I hope Ford saves that crap for the GT500 or some effete Lincoln luxo-mobile that doesn't need to save weight.

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OK fair enough. I was just trying to imagine how much better it would be with some actual power below 3500rpm. Whatever that drivetrain will be in it'll be superior to a GT350 on the street.
From what we can gather from the above hints this would sit between the GT and GT500, and GT500 will get this gear plus forced induction.

BmacIL said:

Check with your brother about what this all is again.
:gossip:

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I can totally understand if they were to usher in hybrid with GT500 before S650. The GT500 usually comes in at the end of a Mustang's cycle so if Ford were to wait for S650' GT500 then that is potentially in 2025/6. Another reason is not being upstaged the following year by an n.a. V8 hybrid.

Falc'man said:

OK fair enough. I was just trying to imagine how much better it would be with some actual power below 3500rpm. Whatever that drivetrain will be in it'll be superior to a GT350 on the street.
From what we can gather from the above hints this would sit between the GT and GT500, and GT500 will get this gear plus forced induction.

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Superior? How so?

Zitrosounds said:

Superior? How so?

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How would adding 150ft-lbs from zero rpm to the Voodoo improve your GT350?

Falc'man said:

How would adding 150ft-lbs from zero rpm to the Voodoo improve your GT350?

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I personally do not feel the car needs more power or tq just less weight. Having said That, you said superior drivetrain. The tq is produced by the powertrain. I was looking for clarification on what you meant by superior. You just ment hp/tq.

Falc'man said:

OK fair enough. I was just trying to imagine how much better it would be with some actual power below 3500rpm. Whatever that drivetrain will be in it'll be superior to a GT350 on the street.
From what we can gather from the above hints this would sit between the GT and GT500, and GT500 will get this gear plus forced induction.

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Agreed that the GT350 is not constructed to be the quickest in a stoplight to stoplight race.

The GT500 should be a real boulevard bruiser.