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yellowpony · Feb 19, 2016

John577 said:
It was an fan forced oven... Maybe that was the problem ?
I also used an heat gun, and nothing changed on the lights.

But after a few time, and seeing the broken aspect of my light, I gave up and put the light back on the car... And to finish, bought a new light to replace the broken one ...

sorry to hear that buddy

Gnome · Feb 19, 2016

FrozenPea said:
You guys have me so confused. DD say their LEDs in these DRL boards are already brighter than stock. Can you post a comparison of the DD & stock LEDs? I want mine to look like the stock North American DRLs.

Hey Frozen did the headlight you bought come with the standard led boards in it? If they did could you hook them up and then as a comparison just temporarily put in the DD ones to see the difference?

I have not seen the difference in real life so can only go on what I have read in going through countless posts on many threads. The common opinion seems to be the DD leds are not very bright when installed in the light, even DD commented that they were not very bright and only for cosmetic effect. Mate I am just as much in the dark as you and trying to work this out without actually seeing them in real life, worse than trying to pick an exhaust from sound clips:lol:

John577 · Feb 19, 2016

Here's a pic I took outside. Was not a shiny weather so you can see how they light.

Oh, and see the left side works with the max of brightness and the right side has the dimmed problem as I spoke.

yellowpony · Feb 19, 2016

Guys I went to Bling works Today. where John from France bought his led globes for his DRL aka Fog light from.

I asked him if he could give us a bulk discount and he is happy with that

FrozenPea · Feb 20, 2016

Gnome said:
Hey Frozen did the headlight you bought come with the standard led boards in it? If they did could you hook them up and then as a comparison just temporarily put in the DD ones to see the difference?

Yes I've got the original LED boards, I considered this but it seemed like a bit of a hassle. I'll check the wiring diagrams tonight and see how much effort it really is.

I put the DD ones in this headlight yesterday and they looked about the same brightness I remember from that yellow GT that went around the dealers.

If I can figure it out i'll post pics, to put the matter to rest.

Aus-MustangGT · Feb 20, 2016

yellowpony said:
Guys I went to Bling works Today. where John from France bought his led globes for his DRL aka Fog light from.

I asked him if he could give us a bulk discount and he is happy with that

Beat me to it, I was about to go down and see him next weekend!

yellowpony · Feb 20, 2016

Aus-MustangGT said:
Beat me to it, I was about to go down and see him next weekend!

I had to go their to find a place who can help opening my headlights, Because i can not get in touch with custom right and I have been asking woody from boost design to give me his contact number I will organize my lights but he seems too busy but anyway...

I could not find any retro light fitter in springvale so i thought make my self useful for my forum brothers and go to bling works. I been to his shop before cause I bought headlight globes for my Harley. :thumbsup:

FrozenPea · Feb 21, 2016

I took over the kitchen table tonight. The photos speak for themselves mostly.

Here are my findings:

The Ford LEDs are white only. They have 3 modes - off, on, dimmed. The dimmed mode looks to be triggered by the park lights.
The DD LEDs are RGBW. Half the LED component illuminates white, while the other half is used to mix the RGB (ie. add colour). In White only mode, only half the LED is lit which reduces the light output.
White Versus White. The Ford LEDs in full "on" mode are brighter. Lux meter reading proves it. The DD LEDs are definitely a cooler (ie. bluer) white, but the difference is not extreme.
But... this is only true when the DD LEDs are in white only mode. Once I added colour (which turned on the other half of the LED), the brightness shot way up. Using the shitty remote control colour mixer I got, I was able to achieve a pretty close match for the warm Ford white by mixing some yellow and dropping the brightness down a few bars. It might be possible with a digital controller to do this without having to drop the brightness but i can't prove it out.
The DD boards have 2 LEDs mounted side by side where the Ford board have just 1. In theory this sounds good, but I noticed the LEDs do not diffuse properly because they are now out of position horizontally. This produced obvious spotlighting effects. I got rid of it by mounting the boards a little offset (which is how they are in the photos)

Bottom line is, they're about the same as stock Ford US DRLs and I don't think you'd pick the difference if they weren't side by side like this.

John577 · Feb 21, 2016

Thanks a lot for your great write up.

I never see in real the difference between the OEM and DD's LED boards. :thumbsup:

ozengine · Feb 21, 2016

FrozenPea what is the material used for the reflector in our cars, and how is it attached

Gnome · Feb 21, 2016

FrozenPea said:
I took over the kitchen table tonight. The photos speak for themselves mostly.

Here are my findings:

The Ford LEDs are white only. They have 3 modes - off, on, dimmed. The dimmed mode looks to be triggered by the park lights.

The DD LEDs are RGBW. Half the LED component illuminates white, while the other half is used to mix the RGB (ie. add colour). In White only mode, only half the LED is lit which reduces the light output.

White Versus White. The Ford LEDs in full "on" mode are brighter. Lux meter reading proves it. The DD LEDs are definitely a cooler (ie. bluer) white, but the difference is not extreme.

But... this is only true when the DD LEDs are in white only mode. Once I added colour (which turned on the other half of the LED), the brightness shot way up. Using the shitty remote control colour mixer I got, I was able to achieve a pretty close match for the warm Ford white by mixing some yellow and dropping the brightness down a few bars. It might be possible with a digital controller to do this without having to drop the brightness but i can't prove it out.

The DD boards have 2 LEDs mounted side by side where the Ford board have just 1. In theory this sounds good, but I noticed the LEDs do not diffuse properly because they are now out of position horizontally. This produced obvious spotlighting effects. I got rid of it by mounting the boards a little offset (which is how they are in the photos)

Bottom line is, they're about the same as stock Ford US DRLs and I don't think you'd pick the difference if they weren't side by side like this.

Hi Frozen,
thanks for your efforts this is exactly the information that has been missing, seeing the boards on a table and not in the light didn't really give us much to go on, and the offset thing is a new point that has not been brought up before. Obviously I cant speak for everyone wanting to do this mod, but my goal is to get the same functionality as the stock ones, bright as DRL and dimmed when the parking lights would normally be active. I have no interest in being able to change the colour. From what you are saying this is not possible with the current DD controller, and from what other are saying in other threads it seems that the DD controllers may have some reliability issues. Would be great if we could just get the OEM boards or DD equivalent controller which can mimic the function of the US spec lights, hopefully DD will come up with this sort of thing.

May be worth me getting a damaged headlight from the US and buying your stock LEDs from your one if you wont be using them?

FrozenPea · Feb 22, 2016

ozengine said:
FrozenPea what is the material used for the reflector in our cars, and how is it attached

I don't have a car yet so I can't answer that.

Gnome said:
my goal is to get the same functionality as the stock ones, bright as DRL and dimmed when the parking lights would normally be active. I have no interest in being able to change the colour. From what you are saying this is not possible with the current DD controller, and from what other are saying in other threads it seems that the DD controllers may have some reliability issues.

I believe this is correct - the DD kit doesn't seem to have the same park light sense that the OEM parts have.

I happened to spot a guy selling the guts only from the opposite headlight on ebay on the weekend which I snapped up, so I'll actually have a complete set of OEM LEDs soon. Not sure what I'll do - I've got a month to think it through.

FrozenPea · Feb 22, 2016

Can someone do me a flavour please and take a photo of the main connector on their LH (passenger side) headlight? I want to see if the pinout or even the connector is the same as the US one.

John577 · Feb 22, 2016

Do you mean this ?

FrozenPea · Feb 22, 2016

Bingo! Thanks man, connector is the same, but pins don't seem to line up with the US version.

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