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I never said anything about "linear". All other things being equal, more displacement is capable of more HP. My question was will it make a 1,000 dependable/streetable HP. The 800 HP 2.O is capable of "more than" 800 HP. Yes, I agree, from a practical standpoint, the fiesta is better. If...

This is pretty impressive too. If the 2.0 can make 800 reliable HP for rally racing, can the 2.4 make 1,000 HP? All-wheel-drive Fiestas are powered by a 2.0-liter Duratec Ford engines capable of more than 800 HP...

This may not qualify as a street car and it's not F1 either, but it shows what Ford can do. http://askville.amazon.com/horsepower-Ford-Fiesta-Rally-Car-X-Games-put/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=56822386 All-wheel-drive Fiestas are powered by a 2.0-liter Duratec Ford engines capable of more than...

Yes, Dodge does seem to be expensive, at least at the dealers around here, but with that being said the Scat Pack should go 12's which is fast. I don't auto-x so it should handle well enough. I think the style and interior are great. If it were to be the same price as the GT I would have to...

I like that :clap2:

Yes, the price has me on the fence. I know, it's the best deal ever offered in the history of mankind when you compare it to other cars, yet, I like to pay in full at purchase and writing a check for 30K for a base EB with PP or going all in on a 40K plus GT just seems to be a lot of money...

Yeah, I see what you are saying, If it's not programed to run better on 91 or 93, then it won't. It is flex fuel, so it is programed to compensate for different fuels, but whether it's programed to run better on 91 or 93, I don't know. Regardless, it does get better gas mileage on 93 than 87.

That's only partly true. Think about it, if 87 octane produced less power than 93, why would the 14 GT's make more horsepower on 93 octane? And by the way, if you don't believe the 14's make more power on 93, check with Ford Motor Company. Anyway, here is how it works. 87 octane burns...

That's only partly true. Think about it, if 87 octane produced less power than 93, why would the 14 GT's make more horsepower on 93 octane? And by the way, if you don't believe the 14's make more power on 93, check with Ford Motor Company. Anyway, here is how it works. 87 octane burns...

No, it isn't false, it is fact. I put the gas in and checked the mileage several times and it is repeatable. So are you saying that I don't know how to check gas mileage or you just saying I am a liar?

Wow, it's funny how something can look entirely different in real life or a video as opposed to a picture. I always thought those were the least attractive wheels being offered when looking at pictures but in the video, you can see the size of them and they look really good to me especially on...

Well, I guess that explains everything. I saw the post on the 2014 base for 20,300 so I think I may wait till the 16's start coming out and get a better deal. But I do believe if Ford could put the EB out for around 22 or 23 they would have sales numbers similar to 1964/65.

I want the auto so I'll be 29K but either way, still seems like an aweful lot of money...guess I'm getting old as everyone seems to think its great pricing:shrug:

I think the current GT gets about 10 more HP when using premium gas. My Ford focus gets 40 mpg when going back and forth to work with regular but it gets 44 mpg all day long back and forth to work with premium 93 octane. That's a difference of 4 mpg or 10% better mpg with premium gas. The...

Anybody else disappointed in the prices? I was thinking I would be able to get a base EB with PP for 27K, but looks like it will be 29K or over 30K with tax. The GT's are near 40K or more. I know they are better cars every year and that's why the price keeps going up, but at what point...

Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous to get a manual when you can have an automatic...lol...

What did it run with just a tune and what tune?

Wow, way more expensive than I was expecting. Base EB with PP is over 30K with tax.... Loaded out, it's approaching 40K....

Yeah, it's a scam. Or really just a monopoly with price fixing. My dad worked his whole life as an engineer for oil companies on exploratory rigs, land and water. The cost of oil depends on how hard it is to get. The cheapest oil comes from the middle east where you simply poke a hole in the...

I keep going back and forth between race red and CO. Seeing this in light reinforces how much the lighter orange really makes the black wheels and trim POP.