Actually it was me arguing with you about BMW's...
W3rkn...ignore the old man he's delusional, and close to retirement. He will argue until he has the last word. Also thank you for expressing your Opinion because, well this is America where opinions can and should be had without repercussion.
gees I'm getting like 13 mpg with manual PP but then again my daily commute is mostly 2 miles stop and go then 1.5 miles cruise at low speed. eh...and somewhat heavy foot.