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I realize this may sound like sacrilege on a Mustang board, but maybe you should take a look at a 1SS 1LE. I'm cross shopping the two cars and I haven't made up my mind yet, but its a pretty impressive package. And factory orders are delivered reliably in 8-10 weeks.

The grill sucks, the fake side scoop is stupid, the accentuated hood vents will be a hit in the Pep Boys catalog, and this is being made why, again? So for a premium you get these nifty add-ons and maybe a blower on a stock block Coyote:headbonk: In a couple years I can see Jack Roush getting...

I looked at some window stickers for 2018s on order. GT premium PP w/ mag ride, exhaust, and other bells and whistles going for over 52K. The GT has really gone upmarket. In all fairness, the Camaro has as well if you get a loaded 2SS with all the boxes checked.

The vehicle information packet from Ford only listed 647 wheels as being forged. The PP2 wheels were not described as forged.

It's not pointless to me because I'm cross shopping the two - even though I know the two cars have somewhat different characteristics. As for the PP2, I would imagine it would be more expensive than the "regular" PP. But once we know, I'd like to do the same analysis for the PP2.

Sure - I did this more as an exercise for myself because I'm cross shopping the two vehicles. And price is big consideration in what I will buy. Who knows what the PP2 will entail.

Heh, heh FYI - you have an interesting forum name

Its completely relevant to me because I am considering buying one or the other

Uhhh, no.

Out of curiosity (and the sticker shock over the priciness of the 2018 Mustang), I decided to compare the costs of a 1SS 1LE and GT with options that line up with the 1LE package (that means perf pkg, magna ride, active exhaust, etc.) I'm using the base GT because that lines up with the 1SS...

The GT is encroaching on ZL1 pricing. That is simply silly.

So far it doesn't look anyone here has ordered a car with 647 wheels

A KB blower (slapped on a stock Coyote), bigger wheels, some suspension parts.

My stock to the air filter 2011 Coyote has 155,000 miles and put down 380 on the dyno

Update - No one I've spoken to can order PP with 647 wheels. I suppose this is due to late availability for the 647 wheels. If anyone out there gets an order placed for a PP car with 647 wheels, please post. Thanks.

Your limited in damages in CA in Small Claims to 10K - I don't know if your subject to a venue or forum clause

The guy who made that video gets d-bag of the month award:first:

I'll buy a $55K ZL1 before I buy a 45K Mustang GT. And I know come December deals will be had on 2017 ZL1s. Its worth the stretch to have anything with an LT4 vs. a Coyote. And I'l put up with the styling, visibility, etc. etc.

You will be able to find a new ZL1 mid 50s around the holidays.

60K will get you a clean low mileage C6 ZR1