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Generally I agree with you, but keep in mind the tightening European emissions standards that BMW is trying to get ahead of. Forced induction, in many ways, is being forced upon the M engineers in order to meet the tightening CO2/km fleet average limits. I'm sure they would have loved to do...

I'd most definitely be limited to one adult passenger with the Mustang, that's for sure. But at least if I can plan ahead I have the 335.

That may defeat the purpose of saving money, though. ;)

If you like the size/looks, I'd put the M235i on that list. I had the chance to test one recently and it was a lot of fun. I'd take it over the 435i M-Sport.

Definitely true. They said they won't, but wouldn't it be lovely if BMW gives us a F8x CSL?

If you have some time, Chris Harris' video on the F80 M3 is quite good. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x24s3pc_2015-bmw-m3-chris-harris-on-cars_auto I think BMW has a tough time with new M cars and the press. If you remember when the E9x M3 brought the V8 there was A LOT of backlash. A...

I already have a 335i sedan, so I feel like I need to differentiate and go with the coupe should I get a F8x. I'd probably feel bad dragging a GT350 through the snow. I wouldn't with a M4. There is a big internal battle brewing inside of me. My head says M4. My heart says GT350. My...

I'm probably in the minority here, but it would be cool if Ford would offer a alcantara pillar/headliner option.

In no particular order: M4 C63 AMG GT350 The FPC V8 lights a fire in my soul, but I'm looking for a DD that I can drive year-round and will work well when taking clients out. I'd also like a spacious enough back seat to handle a car seat.

Do you track your cars? I think ultimately it will come down to which driver can get the most out of the car. I wouldn't worry too much about the performance on paper... get the car you like to drive the most.

You'll need to put a deposit down when you place an order. The amount will vary depending on the dealership, but anywhere from $500-$1000 is probably the norm.

That looks great. One of my big gripes about the interior of the car is the steering wheel. I hate how thin it is and how cheap the leather feels.

I think you're largely spot on. A lot of the bad press the F8x is getting may or may not be blown out of proportion. I think it depends on what you're looking for in a car. Chris Harris and Jeremy Clarkson love it, for example. And I'm sure there are plenty of happy owners out there. The...

Not really sure what you are getting so riled up about? Could you expand on your frustration? I clearly answered the M4 vs. GT350 question in my first post... and now we are here?

To me it is better because it is more capable and trackable, but it also offers a more upscale interior (if you option it that way), better looks, and a bit of provenance that the run of the mill 3/4 series don't deliver.

That is why I'm seriously considering one. I was never a BMW fan, but after we bought my wife's 335i I have warmed up to them. I'd like to try the luxury performance car experience. But, I am a Mustang fanboy, so I always have to cross shop with the Mustang. :ford:

That's not why you buy a M4 over a 435i. A vast majority of M4s won't see the track. You buy the M4 because it's just a better car. I'm in the market for a M4... or possibly a GT350. I think the GT350 will be the better performance car by far, but the M4 will probably be the better daily...

Ford said it. They released the numbers somewhere but I can't seem to find them right now. I'm sure someone else knows where they are.

Manual for me. I have driven some nice DCT cars but I still prefer three pedals.

They definitely have a good reputation. All of the Focus ST people highly regard them.