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As opposed to all the aristocratic intellects who insult other people's intelligence simply because they disagree with an opinion? Dealerships absolutely have the right to ask what ever they want for their cars, but since when does that mean they are immune from criticism when they add dealer...

Nobody told him how to how to operate his business. Some of us have said we refuse to buy from anyone who sells cars with dealer markup. I did not come here to be told how to be a buyer. See how that works? Asking for dealer markup pisses off some buyers. Guess what, that's the free market at...

They absolutely have the right to charge over MSRP, and as buyers we have the right to tell them to pound sand. And to suggest to all our friends, family and people on car forums to never buy anything from them, nor to ever have your cars serviced by them.

Leif Johnson Ford.... I will mark that down on my never buy from ever list.

Does anyone have a link to a car mag comparison between the 5.0 Mustang and the 392 Challenger? I can't find one.

I don't like that one. The front seats have kind of a lowrider style to them (and in a BMW), and don't they don't at all match the leather in the rest of the car.

I absolutely 100% agree.

I'm torn. I'm considering getting a 15 Challenger RT 392 Shaker. It just look so badass, I love shakers and it would be good for long trips for a family of 3. At the same time, the '15 Mustang sounds like it's going to be a serious corner carving 435 hp beast. A side note, there's a whole...

I'm not going to lie, that looks badass. I wouldn't mind having one.

That's pretty darn good!

The 5.7 RT is laughably outgunned by similarly priced Mustangs and Camaros, and has been for some time now. The 392 RT scat pack looks like it may have potential. I'm waiting for them to actually come out before I make up my mind. At best it might be slightly faster in a straight line, but it...

When you factor in all of the improvements made to the 2015 Mustang, such a modest horsepower pump is definitely something we should be able to live with. My only problem is with the way Ford handled it. They only told us it will make more horsepower and torque without giving us numbers, and...

They also went on the high side of typical GT500 times, and they're comparing automatic transmission to manual. You are correct that we don't know if that Hellcat was a ringer, and aside from that we don't know what kind of prep was done, if any. By prep I mean things like under inflating...

Do they save weight, and if so how much?

Has Ford announced, or are there any rumors from reputable sources about when the GT350 will be for sale, and when they will hit showroom floors?

I actually hope it does break records because I'm an American car fan. I'm not a homer for any particular brand. With that said, the amount of **** talking and puffery I see on challengertalk.com over the Hellcat is astounding. It would be disappointing if the Hellcat failed to live up to the...

Have they even said when they will release the information?

In terms of price the Mustang GT really competes with the Challenger 5.7 RT, but that's no contest. The '15 Challenger 392 comes with 485 horsepower, which is likely well over what the '15 Mustang will have. But it also weighs about 500 pounds more. Will the Mustang GT unseat the Challenger...