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  1. 2015+ Mustang (S550) Owners Pictures/Videos Thread

    Really cool background you found with the tall mural of graffiti art to photograph your car.
  2. New Shelby GT350 Mustang Revealed! 5.2L Flat Plane Crank V8, 500+HP / 400 LB-FT

    Pricing for the GT350 and 1LE won't even be in the same stratosphere. The GT-PP is in direct competition with the Camaro SS-1LE. It's a choice between a better track car or a better daily driver.
  3. New Shelby GT350 Mustang Revealed! 5.2L Flat Plane Crank V8, 500+HP / 400 LB-FT

    Does anyone know when they will release a price?
  4. 2015 GT PP vs 2015 Challenger R/T Scat Pack

    Lots of great things to say about the Mustang but looks-wise it's far from my favorite. The Camaro 1LE and Challenger scream "I'm going to kick your ass". The '15 Mustang screams "I'm a sporty Euro car." It doesn't look bad per say, but the design just inspires no emotion in me.
  5. 2015 GT PP vs 2015 Challenger R/T Scat Pack

    I'm going with a SP because I want the shaker hood, though I'm keeping my mind open for the SRT. I don't like the exterior design of the GT (from pictures), though my wife and I are going to look at some in person tomorrow, and Challengers. The 1LE and Challenger both have mean, aggressive...
  6. 2015 GT PP vs 2015 Challenger R/T Scat Pack

    Great post, and so true about Challengertalk. I couldn't begin to tell you about how much vitriol I've had flung at me on that site for giving honest assessments about Challengers and the competition. And I don't even bash the car. I'm even strongly leaning toward buying a Scat Pack. But when I...
  7. 2015 Mustang GT PP vs. 2015 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE

    At least right now their build website only has the normal 1LE option.
  8. 2015 Mustang GT PP vs. 2015 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE

    Unfortunately I'm not wow'd by the new Mustang. I was never super excited by the new design, and I was expecting more than a 15 horsepower bump, and I was also expecting a hands-down Camaro beater on the track. That said, it made leaps and bounds in areas that were main criticisms, especially...
  9. 2015 Mustang GT PP vs. 2015 Chevrolet Camaro SS 1LE

    I just watched the video from the OP for the first time. I was disappointed by the results, being still bested by the 1LE in overall performance. The thing that gets me is how much Dave Pericak kept making boastful statements about the Mustang handling prowess. _________________________ [ame]...
  10. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    Public relations is a non-issue for individual buyers.
  11. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    I think you're being melodramatic. Dealers who markup cars over MSRP run the risk of driving away customers and possibly bad PR. Apparently the reward can outweigh the risk because a lot of dealers do it, but that's just a side note right now. Having the right to markup your cars does not...
  12. GT350 Horsepower

    Your hypothetical dyno is a mathematical impossibility.
  13. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    Of course it's okay for them to criticize the consumer. Nobody said otherwise. Of course, the seller does have to worry things like reputation but it is his or her right.
  14. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    That would be an outstanding argument if it weren't for the fact that it is completely strawman. I acknowledge dealers have a right to markup their vehicles. Do you acknowledge consumers have a right to criticize them for it?
  15. GT350 Horsepower

    No confusion, grimace. Just discussing the theoretical horsepower at 8000 RPM, which obviously isn't reality. Truth be told I seriously doubt it's going to be 600 hp. And honestly I hope it's not that high because I want it to be priced along the lines of the Boss 302. I'm leaning toward a Scat...
  16. GT350 Horsepower

    Peak torque for the Boss 302 is 380 ft/lbs, which at 8000 RPM would equal about 579 horsepower.
  17. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    There are plenty of dealerships who have a policy of not adding a "market adjustment" to their cars, and somehow they manage to stay open. Nobody, including myself, have said dealerships should not be allowed to sell cars for a profit (setting aside the fact that most dealerships make more...
  18. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    I think you'll be hard pressed to find any dealer who doesn't at some point in the buying process mislead unsavvy buyers in some way. I'm sure the truly great dealers exist, but they're exception and not the rule. Maybe I'm just cynical.
  19. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/17/us-usa-antitrust-truecar-insight-idUSBRE9BG06G20131217 The Federal Trade Commission is investigating whether car dealers across the United States ganged up against TrueCar, agreeing among themselves not to do business with the California-based...
  20. Wimbledon White LE #0666 available

    Are you kidding? There are a LOT of corrupt, dishonest or otherwise misleading dealers. I'm not going to broad brush every single one of them, but let's be real here. How many of them give you a very professional looking "recommended service" manual, when in fact it includes all kinds of...





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