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465 hp and a 3500 lb stang would be unreal. My question is when would they unveil the changes and how long do the plan to make the GT350? a 465hp GT in the 30-40K range would be right on the GT350s tail. I would think GT350 would have to get some improvements to differentiate itself some more...

I prefer the 2007 IROC-Z. The iroc sticers are sweeeet. It ran 10s all day stock!

I'll see what I can come up with. And you let me know if anything else I say makes you cry:p

Yup. Let me know if you need any more clarification.

I explained what I meant clearly and nicely, then he asked "then why say it... Clearly has nothing to do with the topic". The tone that I believe he intended in his statement was condescending. Maybe I misunderstood, in which case my bad. If it was intended I stand by my response. And I still...

It's all about how one chooses to get their thrills. If you want straight line speed, and are okay with modding, supercharged GT has got to be the way to go. If you want to stay stock, drive a more rare car, and carve up the back roads GT350 sounds like the winner.

So all of the talk about GM buttf*cking the consumer, that's not stupid or juvenile? Or it is that thePill's old enough so it's okay? I wasn't disrespectful to 347Cobra in any way. I understand the concept. I thought it was pretty easy to understand the sarcasm.

Why'd you waste your time asking a guy, who you think is wasting his time, why he is wasting his time? I take breaks now and then at work and at home. Never said I wouldnt own a 6G mustang or a previous gen mustang(5th gen GT, boss or gt500) or previous gen camaro(I'd go 70-73RS). It's...

Oh I'm sorry. I should have asked you first before I said that. But seriously if what I said sounds ridiculous than so should half the shit in this thread. It does have something to do with the topic if you consider thePill's "GM is tryin to buttf*ck everyone" conspiracy that is injected...

I don't think there is any reasoning. His ability to dodge, dip, duck, dive and dodge any direct question or point is truly astounding. It's like a super power. He's Incredibly Delusional Deflector Man.

I was intentionally make a ridiculous claim. I do not believe this in any capacity. I made this statement in jest, as a parallel to the ridiculous claims thePill makes.

I'll make it simple for you. If the camaro does weigh less than 3780 in base form, it will mean that you were wrong. Everyone on this forum would know it to be true. But would you, almighty defender of truth? Will you admit that you are wrong?

I know you don't like to address people's points. How you determined that I seek thePills approval is beyond me. I want to know if your man enough to admit you are wrong. Will you admit you were wrong if the camaro weighs less than 3780? Btw if it is heavier I'm not getting screwed, I will...

So if you are so devoted to the truth, and the Camaro comes in less than 3780lbs, will you go out of your way to make sure that every person knows that your speculation was wrong? And if it comes in at 3700lbs in base 1SS manual form, will you try your hardest to undo all of the great damage...

"If your argument collapsed today you would be gone tomorrow... an unfortunate personality trait of your generation." 1) This is not a personality trait. 2) Seems to me that people like to group all of those in the generation after them together and stereotype them as having some specific flaws...

I'll set them for him. You have to put (2) 45lb plates in the trunk. You don't get it. No matter what you lose!

But how do we know you wont just weigh the car without fuel? What are you gonna like take a video or something bro? And then like most it on here? Because that would be dope, son.

Wait, are you saying you like the ATS front fascia?

What was the bet? BTW you know its possible to be right about the ATS-V weight and wrong about the SS weights? If the SS weighs less than 3780, then you were wrong, regardless of why it weighs less. Even if it's because they didn't use halo support, you would still be wrong. If the SS...

I can't speak for other buyers. Neither can you, even though you try. And I'm fairly confident that the portion of ATS-V buyers born after 1990 is/will be very small. At no point would a 100lb weight difference be the factor that would cause me to either buy or not buy a vehicle. I'm still...