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Yeah, you pretty much know that if/when they finally give us the danged car a lot of these histrionics are going to disappear in clouds of tire smoke. Like I told a co-worker who ordered a car back in May and has been dying a little bit everyday since, by this time next year people will barely...

I dunno, given the 20% - 30% gains places like Cobb, Lethal Performance and others have regularly and safely seen on the Focus & Fiesta ST it seems like that might be a reasonable bench mark. It also doesn't seem like I'm the only one flying this silly notion...

I know this article originally appeared a few months back so please forgive if it's essentially a re-post but dear Lord PLEASE let this be true! http://www.roadandtrack.com/voices/columnists/4-reasons-the-ford-mustang-should-race-at-the-24-hours-of-le-mans?src=soc_fcbks If FoMoCo really...

I agree and that actually made me LOL! I think this is the result of the marketing depts eyes being bigger than its stomach and their fervor to take advantage of the whole 50th Anniversary thing and slow walk the global launch over the course of an entire year. It seems they shoulda just...

First off, dude you're in ISIS?! :lol: I actually agree w/ a lot of what you've been saying in the past two or three posts and have developed a similar sentiment myself. I think that FoMoCo, lead by it's marketing depts fervor to try and capitalize on on the Mustang 50th Anniversary...

Wow, those are impressive gains! It's that sort of thing that makes me believe the 2.3l eb has 400/400 hp/tq potential. Unfortunately the problem there is going to be the whole deal where the turbo is actually built into the exhaust manifold housing which makes straight across turbo swaps (...

Yep, I saw that referenced a little earlier. It's my guess that over the next few weeks opinions will coalesce around this point of view, i.e. the car is pretty darn good and holds it's own against the design targets intended.

Has anyone heard what eb "base" car weighs vs the Premium?

Kool beans! :clap2::thumbsup:

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that the three things I highlighted there had to be "adjusted" in order to make the car compliant in other countries and subsequently added weight. I keep saying that real e-ticket is going to be the base eb / MT6 / PP car which effectively eliminates a bunch of...

Thanks! One of the things I noticed early in the day was one of the reviews said the PP / ecoboost / AT6 / Premium car they had pulled nearly 1G on the skid pad and had a 60 - 0 stopping distance w/ in EIGHT FEET of the C7 yet most of the reviewers were all " . . . eh, ho hum. It still doesn't...

Yeah, the weight is sort of a bummer. I keep waiting to hear a clear explanation as what exactly causes this car to be dang near 2 tons but I've not seen anything concise on that yet other than the fact that it's "just kinda big".

Do you really think E85 is an option? Thus far I've heard "corn" has been strictly verboten in DI/T cars, something to do w/ the high pressure side fuel pump and I also suspect that some rubber has snuck back into to the fuel systems where they'd previously been "hardened". If you have some...

Yeah, I've been curious as to how much of an affect light weight aftermarket rims and/or break rotors might have especially on the PP cars in terms of performance and mpg? Yes, those cars did have dual clutch trans but from I've heard and read, and as you mention, it seems Ford's execution on...

It's about what I expected. I think a lot of people who are way on the extreme of the enthusiast scale are getting something of a wake up call. This car is a mass production / mass appeal sports coupe and by the sound of it probably one of the better ones on the market BUT that doesn't mean...

Probably picking nits here but it was always my impression the reason Mustang SVO suffered in sales - and yes I remember them first hand as well as the oil embargo - was b/c the SVO came w/ a slightly higher price tag but offered ostensibly equal performance compared to the 5.0 v8 Mustang...

Yeah, I think that's SOP for most inventory, but this car is "SPECIAL". I wouldn't doubt that even for the Mustang that will eventually be the case but I also wouldn't be surprised if the first truck load of Mustangs that show up at some dealerships have a bit of fanfare. :clap2:

Occasionally I do something right! :thumbsup:

It'll be interesting to see if there are relatively easy ways to shed weight from these cars? I've heard varying things on the difference in weight between the standard seats and the Recaros? Also given that these cars already come w/ out a spare tire and tools ( and not even the "flat kit"...

Not to get into a pissing match here ( which yeah, probably too late ) but I'm gonna pick nits and say that I've believed for a while that dual-clutch paddle shift cars like the aforementioned Ferrari or even the Evo X belong in a third category of transmission which I personally believe to be...