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I guess your reading comprehension isn't the best. Let me reiterate it for you. I proposed they make a volume filler that doesn't have 305+ horsepower not to keep up with people but to possibly lower costs but also to change what will be in the hands of children that have yet to drink their...

I believe you are right. Wait til the octo core electro mustang gt comes out the world isn't going to know what hit them

I never said that it would be quick... I said volume filler.. And show me every base model mustang that ran 15s with the 3.8,or 3.9 the autos didn't nor the convertible and I'd believe the convertible and auto 4.0s didn't stock

You can wreck any car.... But how many v6 are there on the road vs gt's? When you have more power than your gt given as a second hand vehicle to teens it's different... But W3rkin was right so they can lock this. If they'd like

Owkay black hand...... Cause ford doesn't have any cars that run 16 or worse stock that are base models .........

w3rkn I guess you are right. My question probably is about teaching driver skills and parenting. It just really pisses me off knowing how I hard I have worked to get my 2014 and seeing some snot kid spending his allowance on modifying his 2014 or 13... Last time I check a Lamborghini was a...

Agreed. I believe they need to offer something with a little less power to give young enthusiasts a status symbol without the risks involved

It being nippy is the problem. Look on YouTube for 3.7 mustang modifications 1/2 the time it's some teenager. Let's face to the mustang is an affordable sports coupe. Or convertible it's not a Porsche although it may beat one on the track. The day the mustang becomes a Porsche in price it's...

I am referring to the 2.0 naturally aspirated engine in the focus not the Eco boost. The engine has to be less to produce than the 3.7. It could sell offer it at the premium package as well it would be a good start for volume sales. Raising the CAFE rating as well but that is not why I am...

That is exactly what I am saying. When I am researching some of these cars I see all kinds of kids with the new 5.0 or 3.7 and I just wonder how long until that car is wrecked... As for ford not having a car that fits it ethos, I don't know how having a low powered base model would effect...

Then why was it ever offered with 3.7,4.0,3.9,3.8, or 2.3 n/a. It stands for what ford wants it to be. I just don't understand why everything has to be power driven. I understand the 5.0/5.8 and 2.3 but why not have something turned down for the secretaries and newbies to driving?

Why doesn't ford offer a base model with a 2.0 naturally aspirated or 1.0 Eco boost? I'm not saying the driving dynamics would be better but it could offer lower entry point and less horsepower. I will be honest if my first car had been a 305hp rwd car I probably wouldn't be here today or I'd...

I just recently got rid of my 02 wrx stock block motor with 175k on it and the last 50k were at power levels that were double the stock output. Only problem I had was the glass transmission. Many Diesel trucks with turbos have no problem pushing 200-300k without issue. Subaru, Mitsubishi, Nissan...

If this engines tunability is similar to the fiesta st's and not the focus st I will be passing on it. The fiesta gets a whopping 7 hp from a tune the 3.7 easily tops that without a turbo. Hopefully we can gain a bit from a retune with the 2.3 and not 7hp

At least your dealership knew that. I pointed that out to the one I was shopping at :l

You mean Precedent and no it is because neither of those two occasions was it the end for the engine line it came from. They put a 4.6 3v in the gt's until 2010 and they still plan on using the coyote... I wouldn't think they'd make a statement like it will fit with modification without...

They aren't the same although! The gt's gauge goes to 15psi and the ecoboost goes to 30

If you can get mystichrome on there ill sign it. And also find a dealer to take my money after its announced!

I am considering the ecoboost mainly for fuel economy. And cheap modifications but I want to have that v8 sound. It's a war within for me. I think bolt ons an suspension mods on an ecoboost is going to drive a hard bargain! It also depends on the dyno graph. If the turbo can hold a better torque...

Trust me I know your pain I live at 6,000+ elevation. When a car does anywhere close to what the magazines says it does here its a miracle nearly. I will make the bold prediction of 443 hp and 405 tq.