No need to get personal, just throwing some fact and figures into the mix. It is abundantly clear that there a few here who have no historical perspective on this stuff.So nice chatting with you ... appreciate the attitude and the potential for you knowing what you're talking about someday.
Actually yes, IIRC my '07 was slapped with the gas guzzler tax, have the sticker somewhere yet. I believe the '13-'14 cars did not because of the tall gearing Ford installed.
Carry on.
Agreed, it's simple business an projections. They are not going to build 20,000 of them and have them sitting on the lots. This isn't a $20k car afterall, so by nature they won't sell as many as a Ecoboost or GT. How many? They don't know yet it's not even out yet.
Each dealer is only getting a certain amount for the year.
They simply aren't taking risks like they did in the past. They pay a Commercial Strategy group to project based on the known not the unknown. Again really simple concept. But it requires the calculations from a first year run to tweak the quantity in the following years. Which is why they only initially commit to two years of production.
Lets see...Back then I believe there were a few more production plants on this continent with FoMoCo's name on it. Not so anymore. In fact the current plant where the Trinity was formerly assembled had to be retooled for what we have coming, so no more Trinity...Welcome the VooDoo. I believe since your car was produced there have been 14 North American manufacturing plants for FoMoCo that shut it's doors.
And the VooDoo is an evolution of the Coyote. Again using much of the same as the Coyote and taking it a step further. Therefore it is a proof of concept in motion that will more than likely evolve into the Mustang GT of our future with a hat tip to the GT350 of it's recent past.
Ummmm...yeah I think we all get that. This NA engine is tweaked more towards performance and is not all about the EPA ...not yet. That's again why its a proof of concept and a specialty vehicle. Now if the next iteration adjusts the airflow and slaps on a couple of turbos you'll see the Gas Guzzler tax go away just like it did for the Ferrari California from the 2013 NA model to the 2014 TT model. More horspower and torque as well as better fuel efficiency.
Thanks for the correction. If I remember correctly, CAFE standards in 2007 were pre-Obama and less stringent. Now they are getting more and more stringent, so to the point that Ford can't afford to have a lot of cars rolling around with a GGtax.
That had to do with the stick axle. M3 owners saw that and decided it was old tech and beneath them. Now that the GT350 is IRS, flat plane, full of new tech etc it's reach is broader and more in line with those who typically choose Euro cars.
2012 B302 Breakdown
Can you prove this? I don't remember any 2012 B302's sitting on dealer lots cause I bought my 2013 in April 2014, two years after production ceased on the 2012 MY B302 and there were none anywhere on lots I could find, except for the Pilot Production cars, of which had just been released to the public not long prior to 2014.
You have some busted up logic. It doesn't even really make sense. As someone already posted above, the demand is far above the projected production numbers of the GT350. The dealers can't even place orders cause they don't even have allocations. Some dealers have been made aware of 2017 allocations and they are just as sparse as the 2016 allotment numbers. If that is the case that means that your theory of Ford watching the 2016 response of purchase is a moot point. Ford would not be allocating 2017 MY GT350's if they didn't already have a plan for production numbers in mind.
