My number came up on the waiting list... but ADM

[Blk2015GT]

All the examples are different, obviously, but they have one thing in common - taking advantage of an artificial or temporary scarcity to make a quick buck.

There have been many non car luxury items that were initially rare. Remember the Nintendo Wii? Every time it was individuals trying to make a few extra bucks on ebay. NEVER a retailer. Gamestop, Best Buy, every retailer sold at msrp. It was always individuals that gouged. Businesses simply didn't do it. It simply wasn't worth the bad publicity to make a few extra dollars.

I'm not disagreeing, but people are VERY hypocritical. If the shoe was on the other foot and they were the one holding a rare item for sale 99% would take every penny they could possibly get that was offered. It's human nature, and people are pure hypocrites which is the most disgusting part of this argument. I hate fake people/phonies.

I'll openly admit if I had a GT350 right now I paid $50k MSRP and was selling it for $60k and and someone offered me $65k I wouldn't think twice to take the money. It's not dishonest at all, the sticker price is very openly known, and if I want to sell it for more than sticker and someone wants to offer more that's their prerogative is it not?

Here's another example. I'm a lawyer and some lawyers here in the South FL area do very specific/rare areas of law that not many do. They charge a premium hourly for their services because not many others do it- lets say $600/hour instead of the market $300/hour average. Are they not entitled to demand "over market" for their rare service? And if someone wants to pay it for that rarity then they are a bad person now?

Rarity can command a higher asking price. This is mere butthurt by people who can't find a MSRP deal and are butthurt the dealership won't sell to them at MSRP and are asking an ADM. Again, if the shoe was on the other foot it'd be a very different set of morals being displayed. Bottom line you want one of the first batch be prepared to shell out an ADM most likely. If you can wait for the 2nd batch or 2017, you can likely get one at MSRP. Pay to play early.

I can name a multitude of cars over the last 30 years that were sold over sticker when they first came out due to low volume available at first; and not even one's built in small scales like the GT350 is. Especially import brands back in the day when import was much slower.

What floors me is most of the people who complain about the car having an ADM would find a reason to not purchase it any. If half the people were offered the vehicle at MSRP they still wouldn't purchase it. I don't get the point in post after post complaining about dealers and ADM's. There are literally thousands of posts about nothing but that. Buying a car first of all comes down to more than just price. Secondly if someone has the money to pay 5k more over sticker and it makes them happy good for them. Congratulate them, tell them they bought a great car, and then keep your opinion to yourself if it's really that negative.

Well said.

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[grayforge]

The big difference is that one example is retail sales while the other is private. I'll admit that I'd sell a car of mine for the highest price I can get (though I wouldn't back out of an agreed upon deal if someone else came by offering $5k more).

On the other hand, I would be pissed if Best Buy jacked a hot new computer up by 30% (or any percent) simply because demand exceeded supply.

 

[ohtobbad]

If the asking price had of been 5k more, most would still think its a good deal.
I like the free market, live in a free country. You don't like it, there are many countries where
your life is completely controlled. Really people bitching about this is getting old.
Pay it or don't, no one is making you do anything. Whining like 3 year old's, Really?

I got lucky, got an R at MSRP, in my world, I am still over paying, as most vehicles
I buy from them, I get at a little over wholesale. But I agreed to pay and quite happy.
I joked with GM, next few purchases I am going to try and get some of my money back, LOL.
But I will be excited to get the car. For me its a toy ( so expensive)
Here in Canada we are already paying more then folks to our south.
Take based and add exchange rate, its more again. So same here decided if car is good deal or not.

 

[grayforge]

If you don't vent your issues with the system, how do you effect change?

 

[CANTWN4LSN]

All about changing hearts and minds. If you don't overcharge a neighbor then your neighbor probably won't overcharge you. +1...if you don't overcharge a stranger then a stranger probably won't overcharge you. I know, I know you don't think ADM is overcharging (sigh). Rather live in my world than yours. No offense taken, none intended.

 

[Poppacapp]

What have we learned boys and girls?

ADM dealers = crooked thieves

Non-ADM dealers = Businesses with integrity

 

[mustang_lurkers]

This thread has turned into a waste of time. I got mine at MSRP and it wasn't luck. I started early, sought out many dealerships, found a reasonable one, made an agreement, paid a deposit and ordered the car. Mustang_Lurkers out!

 

[garagelogic]

This thread has turned into a waste of time. I got mine at MSRP and it wasn't luck. I started early, sought out many dealerships, found a reasonable one, made an agreement, paid a deposit and ordered the car. Mustang_Lurkers out!

In my research with about 50 dealers in the mid-south, I found about a dozen dealers willing to do MSRP on the base GT350's but two that were willing to do the same on their "R" allocation. Who said it was luck?

 

[MatthewAMEL]

In my research with about 50 dealers in the mid-south, I found about a dozen dealers willing to do MSRP on the base GT350's but two that were willing to do the same on their "R" allocation. Who said it was luck?

Any chance you would PM me those dealers?

I'd still love to get an 'R' on order.

FYI - there isn't a dealer in Florida with an allocation willing to go less than $5k for a 350 and $15k for an R.

 

[Poppacapp]

In my research with about 50 dealers in the mid-south, I found about a dozen dealers willing to do MSRP on the base GT350's but two that were willing to do the same on their "R" allocation. Who said it was luck?

And those are the ones that should be posted up on this forum so people can do business with them, and shun the ones with ADM

 

[TexanZSG21]

I too would like one of those dealers...willing to travel a bit if need be.

 

[PonyPower]

And those are the ones that should be posted up on this forum so people can do business with them, and shun the ones with ADM

What do you contribute to the forum besides negativity ? The non-stop dealer bashing is the reason that people that can actually help and answer questions no longer use forums. You don't like dealers, you don't like ADM we all get it.

 

[8250GT350]

In my research with about 50 dealers in the mid-south, I found about a dozen dealers willing to do MSRP on the base GT350's but two that were willing to do the same on their "R" allocation. Who said it was luck?

I would also very much appreciate a PM with the dealers offering a base GT350 for MSRP if possible. The ones I've tried either want 10-20k ADM or they will not call me back. I have no problem paying to ship across the country. Thanks!

 

[shockin330i]

Our dealership was doing I believe 5 over sticker

 

[Poppacapp]

What do you contribute to the forum besides negativity ? The non-stop dealer bashing is the reason that people that can actually help and answer questions no longer use forums. You don't like dealers, you don't like ADM we all get it.

Read some of my other posts. It isn't all negativity. I have no problems with dealers. Apparently you didn't read clearly. Have a nice day.

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