Bama Performance Automatic 2015 Results - AmericanMuscle.com

[95cobby]

Because alot of it is a bunch of bs,i dont care what anyone says a tune alone is not gaining crazy amounts of hp no matter if jesus his self tunes it.Their adding some timing,remapping the fly by wire tb and shift points for tune only.Those are good numbers for a tune only.Man i cant wait to hit the track,then lets see wheir all this hp is.

yes my bad, it was 8 years ago so a bit hard to remember, I had to go dig up the emails.. it was tuned by Amazon so maybe that's why I liked it so much.

As for Bama tunes.. Tune only okay good numbers.. Tell that to the guy with the post about loosing power. Or maybe that's just the difference between physically having the car to tune vs remote tuning. This is just my own personal opinion but I would not be spending my hard earned money on their tune when there are other industry proven tuners out there. Maybe you guys are getting them because of the name, customer service, you got a cai, or the low price.. I would like to see someone honestly say because of the performance.


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[Blk2015GT]

yes my bad, it was 8 years ago so a bit hard to remember, I had to go dig up the emails.. it was tuned by Amazon so maybe that's why I liked it so much.

As for Bama tunes.. Tune only okay good numbers.. Tell that to the guy with the post about loosing power. Or maybe that's just the difference between physically having the car to tune vs remote tuning. This is just my own personal opinion but I would not be spending my hard earned money on their tune when there are other industry proven tuners out there. Maybe you guys are getting them because of the name, customer service, you got a cai, or the low price.. I would like to see someone honestly say because of the performance.


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You're right in the sense that they are 2 totally types of tune systems.

Bama you tell them what mods you have- JLT CAI, Borla catback ets, and they write a tune and email it to you. It is based on those mods and more of a "canned" tune, as it it wasn't built for your very specific car and it's tendencies.

Lund, Livernois etc have these but also have custom tunes where they remotely tune the car. They also cost $100 and up PER tune, up too hundreds per hour for a remote custom tune, instead of included in the cost with the tuner like Bama.

It depends how much you want to pay. All make generally similar HP, 30-35, with a stock engine. A lot of the who is best is BS to begin with as there is only so much a "canned" tune can do.

If you are racing on a canned tune you're doing it wrong to begin with anyway.

 

[Tommy V]

You're right in the sense that they are 2 totally types of tune systems.

Bama you tell them what mods you have- JLT CAI, Borla catback ets, and they write a tune and email it to you. It is based on those mods and more of a "canned" tune, as it it wasn't built for your very specific car and it's tendencies.

Lund, Livernois etc have these but also have custom tunes where they remotely tune the car. They also cost $100 and up PER tune, up too hundreds per hour for a remote custom tune, instead of included in the cost with the tuner like Bama.

It depends how much you want to pay. All make generally similar HP, 30-35, with a stock engine. A lot of the who is best is BS to begin with as there is only so much a "canned" tune can do.

If you are racing on a canned tune you're doing it wrong to begin with anyway.

I dont get into names for products,i look for proven results that i see for myself.Just like everyone talking about dynos being munipulated.Dynojet is one of the hardest dynos to manipulate,now the tuner can fool with the tune.Mustang dynos and load cell dyno are the easiest to munipulate but if used and operated correctly they are the most accurate,again if used correctly.Guys keep looking at top hp numbers when the before and after are the most important.Sorry Black gt did not mean to quote u.

 

[Blk2015GT]

I dont get into names for products,i look for proven results that i see for myself.Just like everyone talking about dynos being munipulated.Dynojet is one of the hardest dynos to manipulate,now the tuner can fool with the tune.Mustang dynos and load cell dyno are the easiest to munipulate but if used and operated correctly they are the most accurate,again if used correctly.Guys keep looking at top hp numbers when the before and after are the most important

Of course. I just fail to see anything wrong with these Bama numbers. 32hp is impressive for nothing but a tune!

 

[95cobby]

Of course. I just fail to see anything wrong with these Bama numbers. 32hp is impressive for nothing but a tune!

32? You mean 14. You can't compare 87 vs 93 octane..


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[Tommy V]

Of course. I just fail to see anything wrong with these Bama numbers. 32hp is impressive for nothing but a tune!

I think alot of guys are talking about how they did the dyno with the 87 and 93 octang gas,so it may have been a little less but like we said those wete still good numbers for just a stock tune.

 

[Tommy V]

32? You mean 14. You can't compare 87 vs 93 octane..


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Theirs not 16 hp difference between 87 and 93 octane gas tuned or not tuned.

 

[95cobby]

Theirs not 16 hp difference between 87 and 93 octane gas tuned or not tuned.

Lol nah man, check out the first graph. It's the comparison between 93 stock and tuned. Ignore the numbers AM posted, they removed the peak numbers claim from the post.. Kinda like the outrageous claims Gibson and Manga did to get attention at first.



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[Tommy V]

Lol nah man, check out the first graph. It's the comparison between 93 stock and tuned. Ignore the numbers AM posted, they removed the peak numbers claim from the post.. Kinda like the outrageous claims Gibson and Manga did to get attention at first.



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Lol ok man u got me,im talking about tuned 87 or tuned 93,now if u take a untuned car with 87 and the put 93 in it and tune it yea thats unfair but thats not what they did.

 

[Blk2015GT]

I think alot of guys are talking about how they did the dyno with the 87 and 93 octang gas,so it may have been a little less but like we said those wete still good numbers for just a stock tune.

Ah you're right. Still we know generally from Ford there is a roughly 1% hp loss using 87 vs 93 bone stock. It's not a huge hp hit, maybe 3-5hp.

Lets even knock it down to 25hp from 93 to 93 tuned and give it a very generous 2% assumption (7hp on 361), although it is probably much less.

Still where it should be without a CAI or catback to open it up a bit. About 30hp all in all.

 

[Tommy V]

Ah you're right. Still we know generally from Ford there is a roughly 1% hp loss using 87 vs 93 bone stock. It's not a huge hp hit, maybe 3-5hp.

Lets even knock it down to 25hp from 93 to 93 tuned and give it a generous 2% (7hp on 361) Still where it should be without a CAI or catback to open it up a bit.

Agreed the octane rating and hp numbers as far as dropping were talked about awhile back by ford and their was not much difference,but what does ford know lol.Hell even the ecoboost which is fi was not that much different between 87 and 93.

 

[B Gordon]

Thanks for doing a baseline run with 87 octane on a factory car.
I personally run 87 all the time and have been wondering what numbers the car puts out with 87 vs 89 vs 91.
Since you did that run before a tune and then better octane before and after tune, I know I am giving up less than 10 hp over putting 91 in my car.
Just what I have been wanting to find out.

 

[Mustang_Owner]

I bought the SCT X4 without the CAI from AmericanMuscle.com around Christmas time so I expect to see 15 HP gains. If I paid for the JLT CAI, I would have seen as much as 30 HP gain on 93 octane. However, I was going for the supercharger. The supercharger needs its own tune and comes with its own intake, so I never actually used my BAMA tune SCT X4 and also never bought the CAI. Since my SCT X4 is still sitting new in the box since Christmas, can I still return it or use it for store credit since I never used it and can't use it with my supercharger tune I would get from the supercharger vendor?

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

...Lund, Livernois etc have these but also have custom tunes where they remotely tune the car. They also cost $100 and up PER tune, up too hundreds per hour for a remote custom tune, instead of included in the cost with the tuner like Bama....

Just to clarify a little bit....

We do not charge,"...$100 and up PER tune...." Our custom remote tuning is $599.99, period. BUT, that includes basically any updating that you need at no extra cost to you. We will even update your tunes for whatever refinements that we develop on our end as well. We have several customers that we rebuild tunes for on a regular basis. Are we saying that we want you to ask us for an updated tune on a daily basis, no. But to say that we charge $100 extra for each tune that we give you is flat out not true.

As for dyno tuning, of course it is more expensive...the difference there is the cost of having one of my techs strap your car to our dyno, then the cost of my calibrator to physically sit in your car to do WOT testing. Then he will go out and do driveability refinements on the street. And finally the vehicle installation supervisor will go out and do WOT and driveability verification to make sure that your finished product is 110%. So, yes there are extra costs associated with all of that investment in time.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Just to clarify a little bit....

We do not charge,"...$100 and up PER tune...." Our custom remote tuning is $599.99, period. BUT, that includes basically any updating that you need at no extra cost to you. We will even update your tunes for whatever refinements that we develop on our end as well. We have several customers that we rebuild tunes for on a regular basis. Are we saying that we want you to ask us for an updated tune on a daily basis, no. But to say that we charge $100 extra for each tune that we give you is flat out not true.

As for dyno tuning, of course it is more expensive...the difference there is the cost of having one of my techs strap your car to our dyno, then the cost of my calibrator to physically sit in your car to do WOT testing. Then he will go out and do driveability refinements on the street. And finally the vehicle installation supervisor will go out and do WOT and driveability verification to make sure that your finished product is 110%. So, yes there are extra costs associated with all of that investment in time.

Thanks for providing that info:cheers:

How close is your remote tuning solution vs. in person dyno tuning? On a '15 GT with CAI and catback as the only mods as the vehicle in question. I would assume the numbers and driveability would be very, very close? 95% of what a custom tune is?

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