Tuning Questions Who's the best for s550 There's too many to choose from

[beefcake]

The sct x4 is a.better piece. We looked.at some of the older tuning boxes for the new Lund tunes as well. Everyone today really likes the newer technology, The ngauge with hp tuning Lund will have out very soon will really be worth the wait if you don't want an x4. Tune updates are free as well.

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[Tommy V]

The sct x4 is a.better piece. We looked.at some of the older tuning boxes for the new Lund tunes as well. Everyone today really likes the newer technology, The ngauge with hp tuning Lund will have out very soon will really be worth the wait if you don't want an x4. Tune updates are free as well.

Man its so hard to make a decision, I have used lund before and had great results, how long before u think its going to be out?

 

[ThatsMrGimp2U]

Livernois Motorsports

Their tuning software is their own, they created it, Sct just wouldn't cut it. Not enough control. Most, not all, but most of the tuners you listed use sct.

Heard of anyone having down load issues with Livernois? Updating issues with livernois?

I've read where you have to update the SCT when you get it? It's brand new, why does it need updating?

Dan Millen and Livernois Motorsports has been in mustang tuning since the early 90's. They are not resellers, they are definers. ( is that a word? )

No data log games. Just power and drivability.

1. The tuning software is there own, correct. SCT's I'm sure is more expensive on a yearly basis. You say the SCT does not have enough control. So does Livernois actually, but they don't say what extra parameters there flash box provides

2. Download issues with anyone can arise. It's part of the flashing process.

3. You have to be kidding me about the update thing... They add features and improve compatibility when they update for new vehicles... X4 did not support flat foot shifting or launch control when it first came out, now it does. I don't mind taking the 5 minutes out of the infrequent 3 month span to make sure my device is up to date. Everything updates these days.

4. Data logging is far from a game. It is the next best thing to dynoing your vehicle and a great tool to see how your car is performing. Not all bolt ons are going to do the exact same thing on your car, so why not get a tune specifically for it.

You did have some good advice at the end. OP, do your homework. Everyone has a favorite and and are going to reply with biased answers. Pick someone based on what your plans are for the car beyond tuning and what you expect out of a tuning device.




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[Grimace427]

4. Data logging is far from a game. It is the next best thing to dynoing your vehicle and a great tool to see how your car is performing. Not all bolt ons are going to do the exact same thing on your car, so why not get a tune specifically for it.

I wouldn't say datalogging is the next best thing to running on a dyno as you should be logging WHILE running on the dyno.

 

[ThatsMrGimp2U]

I wouldn't say datalogging is the next best thing to running on a dyno as you should be logging WHILE running on the dyno.

Sorry, should have said data logging on the street. Thought it was implied.

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[Grimace427]

Sorry, should have said data logging on the street. Thought it was implied.

I prefer datalogging on a dyno for safety reasons.

 

[ThatsMrGimp2U]

Again... That's why I said next best thing.

And so there is no confusion. Data logging on the street is the next best thing to data logging on a dyno.

I also think that with any tuned car, it is a good idea to periodically log your car to see its overall health and prevent minor issues before they become major.

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[foghat]

Thanks man that was my main worry, but with that being the case im going with livernoise!!!!!.just scared with the sct thing going on right now, but im sure they will get it figured out.

The down side to me is the Livernois box cannot datalog. They say they can dial things in perfectly without data logging and it isn't necessary. I'm not quite sure I'm ready to believe that yet.

I heard their device isn't anything like a SCT device. More like a little black box that uploads a tune or downloads a tune... No way to get in there an manipulate anything like an SCT. And they don't email a tune. They provide a link so you can download the new or revised tune from a secure server..... Ask me how I know...

According to Livernois, you can also read and clear codes with their unit.

Can u download more than one tune at a time, its not a huge deal for me, or do they do one tune at a time based on ur mods.

According to their website the device will hold up to four tunes. Obviously you can only have one on your car at any given time.

 

[foghat]

4. Data logging is far from a game. It is the next best thing to dynoing your vehicle and a great tool to see how your car is performing. Not all bolt ons are going to do the exact same thing on your car, so why not get a tune specifically for it.

That can depend on who you talk to. The dyno is definitely the fastest and safest way to tune.

But I've actually had tuners tell me that if possible they like to see data logs from pulls on the street/track to really dial things in, as that represents the 'real' load being put on your car and real airflow being pushed into the engine.

 

[Tommy V]

Well thats a postive for holding four tunes, especially when running race fuel.But I too really like to see my data logs wearher it be on the dyno or tunning on the street.Now if ur going to just tune ur car and thats it, maybe logging not that important, but when doing heavy mods I would like to see whats going on with my car.

 

[ThatsMrGimp2U]

That can depend on who you talk to. The dyno is definitely the fastest and safest way to tune.

But I've actually had tuners tell me that if possible they like to see data logs from pulls on the street/track to really dial things in, as that represents the 'real' load being put on your car and real airflow being pushed into the engine.

I have had a number of tuners prefer data logging on the street. But there cliental mostly did not want to pay for dyno time. I have yet to have a car tuned on a dyno. But I know many think dyno time is the end all be all when it comes to dialing in your car.

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[foghat]

Is there something in my statement making you think I don't know that dyno time is better? Is that not what is meant by "next best thing"?

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See what I bolded in my quote of yours and reread what I wrote.

I was actually implying that, while a dyno might be faster and safer, tuning from datalogs gathered with actual street/track pulls can be better - not the next best thing.

At least according to one tuner I talked with. He'd like to tune on the dyno and then get street datalogs to fine tune/make sure everything looked good. Myabe he was an anomaly, I don't know.

 

[ThatsMrGimp2U]

I did. I interpreted it wrong. And then edited my post. Or tried to

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[foghat]

Well thats a postive for holding four tunes, especially when running race fuel.But I too really like to see my data logs wearher it be on the dyno or tunning on the street.Now if ur going to just tune ur car and thats it, maybe logging not that important, but when doing heavy mods I would like to see whats going on with my car.

Livernois sounds great. And as long as you do the basic mods, you are probably good. Assuming you are okay with not data logging.

But if you ever go a little more serious mod wise or if you decide you'd like to do a dyno tuning session locally, you are out of luck - as since it is proprietary software, no one locally is going to be able to tune with it.

 

[foghat]

I did. I interpreted it wrong. And then edited my post. Or tried to

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Ha. Sometimes I'm just too fast for my own good.

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