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I can only imagine what that would have felt like. I would have probably barfed... sorry!!
It felt like instant regret and complete stupidity. I saw from a distance the broken up pavement but dismissed it as a chuckhole against all better judgement, then when I realized I was in for a ride I slammed on the brakes but it was far too late. Honestly the actual feeling wasn't too terrible. Aside from the right front tire blowing, you couldn't even tell something had happened. But upon closer inspection at home I was like, mannnn, there's a lot more than meets the eye here. The bumper clips were broken, even though the bumper looked fine. The wheels probably won't balance again. The strut seals burst, so I knew they were gone. The bearings sounded fine, but they were not. So I gave it to shop because I didn't want to chase these invisible issues one at a time for a year.
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Question about CEL's showing up on scanners, but not throwing a CEL light on dash. Theres been a few CEL's ive found tripped in scanner, but they never have thrown a CEL on dash.

What is the criteria for a scanner code to trip a light on dash? the code im referring too specifically is P04DB-00, I installed a clean side catch can, and this is the cause of it, many others have documented it, but they had CEL appear on dash, mine has not. I just scanned using obd fusion out of curiosity. is it possible it remains a soft code and never turns into a dash code? meaning, maybe intermittent / false alarm?

ultimately I will prob have to remove it though. not sure why a catch can throws this Cel though. its weird, both have the little connector etc that clips to the car and such.

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In addition to what Ice mentioned about BCM codes, it depends on if a DTC is pending or permanent.
If the DTC is pending, that basically means a code is still stored, and something was detected to be just out of the range of spec, and the car will continue to monitor the conditions in order to see if there really is a problem; either more drive cycles or more self checks are required by the vehicle in order for the DTC to become permanent, and throw the CEL.
Your code could have been in the pending state at that time - not sure if pending codes would show under "Current," in your screen capture above.
 
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In addition to what Ice mentioned about BCM codes, it depends on if a DTC is pending or permanent.
If the DTC is pending, that basically means a code is still stored, and something was detected to be just out of the range of spec, and the car will continue to monitor the conditions in order to see if there really is a problem; either more drive cycles or more self checks are required by the vehicle in order for the DTC to become permanent, and throw the CEL.
Your code could have been in the pending state at that time - not sure if pending codes would show under "Current," in your screen capture above.
I will update when I get some more hours/drive times on it. there's nothing showing yet after a few drive cycles. my question next is, just because it says its disconnected, does that mean there's an actual issue? as long as the hoses/catch can are free flowing, that should mean that its safe to run, even with a code.

but if a dash light does ever illuminate I will be forced to pull it, and give it to next willing person lol.
 

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I will update when I get some more hours/drive times on it. there's nothing showing yet after a few drive cycles. my question next is, just because it says its disconnected, does that mean there's an actual issue? as long as the hoses/catch can are free flowing, that should mean that its safe to run, even with a code.

but if a dash light does ever illuminate I will be forced to pull it, and give it to next willing person lol.
Haha yeah, I mean the code says Disconnected like you said, because it`s sensing nothing, since the oem line has a pressure sensor in it IIRC, and due to the catch can there now, instead of the oem hose. But in this case, it does not mean that there is an actual issue per say. Clean side is the passenger side on EBs right? If that's the case, it's just like the clean side on 5.0s and 5.2s, in that clean side doesn't really capture anything anyway.

ETA: I'm sure you've seen the Ford Performance Air Oil separator? This wouldn't be an issue with that, presumably, since it retains the pressure sensor
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Haha yeah, I mean the code says Disconnected like you said, because it`s sensing nothing, since the oem line has a pressure sensor in it IIRC, and due to the catch can there now, instead of the oem hose. But in this case, it does not mean that there is an actual issue per say. Clean side is the passenger side on EBs right? If that's the case, it's just like the clean side on 5.0s and 5.2s, in that clean side doesn't really capture anything anyway.

ETA: I'm sure you've seen the Ford Performance Air Oil separator? This wouldn't be an issue with that, presumably, since it retains the pressure sensor
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mine is the ford perf one, on that line right there on the bottom, the sensor clips into that hose, both the stock hose and that ford perf both have that sensor. so I figure it would be working, but evidently doesnt detect "enough" flow. which could be because, maybe the can is a lot more volume thus takes longer to fill up or pressurize, and throwing off the numbers its expecting.
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mine is the ford perf one, on that line right there on the bottom, the sensor clips into that hose, both the stock hose and that ford perf both have that sensor. so I figure it would be working, but evidently doesnt detect "enough" flow. which could be because, maybe the can is a lot more volume thus takes longer to fill up or pressurize, and throwing off the numbers its expecting.
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Gotcha. I completely agree with your theory about the pressure/volume. Makes you wonder, this came from Ford and apparently they should have tested things, and if issues are coming up in the wild, looks like perhaps they didn't test this unit enough.
 

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Still getting compliments on the car, whether it be at work, in a Grocery Store parking lot, or at a drive thru. The only thing I really hate is the fact that the car is still "swirled" up from when I purchased it. They don't notice it, just the shiny paint red paint. I performed a 2-stage compound/polish by hand which left my entire body aching for a good number of days.

My Rupes Duetto Polisher and a few pads came in the mail a few weeks ago. I ordered some additional pads, Course and Finishing pads. Between Microfiber Towels, and Polishing pads, these things add up pretty quick.

My Camaro was easy to maintain. I was the only driver, and very minimal issues with the paint. So there was no need to get out the big toys for it.

This is a summer project that I'm looking forward to.

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Gotcha. I completely agree with your theory about the pressure/volume. Makes you wonder, this came from Ford and apparently they should have tested things, and if issues are coming up in the wild, looks like perhaps they didn't test this unit enough.
exactly. on the ford perf website, it literally says recommended to be used for the high perf, and tuned ecoboost. but I only paid 145 off someone, not a big loss, I just dont know if it when that code is tripped, if the engines power management is affected or if it just drives on like normal. dont want my car to think somethings broken and gimp mode.

but if its just a dummy light, (hidden off dash) I won't care so much.

it says integrated PCV sensor inline, (the sensor code thingy) I would say maybe mines broken, but several, and I mean several people had same issue with any/and same catch cans from ford perf.

but for kicks and giggles, im going to go and unclip the pcv sensor, and relcipe it back in, to ensure its fully seated properly.

id be ticked if I paid MSRP lol
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It felt like instant regret and complete stupidity. I saw from a distance the broken up pavement but dismissed it as a chuckhole against all better judgement, then when I realized I was in for a ride I slammed on the brakes but it was far too late. Honestly the actual feeling wasn't too terrible. Aside from the right front tire blowing, you couldn't even tell something had happened. But upon closer inspection at home I was like, mannnn, there's a lot more than meets the eye here. The bumper clips were broken, even though the bumper looked fine. The wheels probably won't balance again. The strut seals burst, so I knew they were gone. The bearings sounded fine, but they were not. So I gave it to shop because I didn't want to chase these invisible issues one at a time for a year.
You might have been better off not to hit the brakes since that transferred the weight to the front. I've tried to teach my family to not be on the brakes for speed bumps and potholes (before is okay but release before the front wheels release the bump/hole!)
 

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Yeah, if people are having issues, then we know for sure something is off with this unit. "Highly-Engineered system", hmmm lol.


Same.
I haven't had any issues with mine (2021 Mach 1) but I haven't checked the codes yet. If I find a code when I get around to checking it (no compelling reason to do so at this time), I'll update my post on this.
 

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I haven't had any issues with mine (2021 Mach 1) but I haven't checked the codes yet. If I find a code when I get around to checking it (no compelling reason to do so at this time), I'll update my post on this.
this is an ecoboost specific catch can, im glad yours isn't throwing a code.
on that catch can you use, does it have a plug sensor? mine does,

my other side (dirty side) there is no sensor / clip or anything, and it never throws a code. but this new one, we all get the same code on the passenger side, P04db-00 but ford perf, has the clip, lemme go get a photo. its supposed to prevent the code as I quoted above.

here's some photos I just took.
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I haven't had any issues with mine (2021 Mach 1) but I haven't checked the codes yet. If I find a code when I get around to checking it (no compelling reason to do so at this time), I'll update my post on this.
Yeah as FreePenguin stated, this is specifically a problem with the ecoboost passenger side catchcan.
 

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You might have been better off not to hit the brakes since that transferred the weight to the front. I've tried to teach my family to not be on the brakes for speed bumps and potholes (before is okay but release before the front wheels release the bump/hole!)
No doubt, I thought about that too.
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