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New mustang with mag ride vs used 35k mike Porsche 991.1 from Porsche dealer with warranty.

Prior to MY18 that wouldn’t have been a decision a potential buyer would have to make. Now the potential buyer will be test driving the porker if nothing else. The suited sales professional with their complimentary Latte and Germanic panel fit will be harder to ignore when compared directly with a ford dealer who treats your car like junk, doesn’t know their product, and couldn’t care if you are kept waiting.
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I like Jags. They are just a bit expensive for the faster ones.
A supercharged V8 F Type is well over twice the price of a Mustang GT, but surely not twice as good?
nope new stang in gibbo spec is near enough same price as an ftype v8sc with only a couple of thousand on the clock (still with warranty left infact!)
at sub 40k the mustang was a good buy at plus 40 its less so
 

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Yep it’s going to be a big culture shock for me when I trade my Porsche for a Ford
 

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Is 2-3k higher price than current model, right?
 

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I think the GT coupes were 33K in 2015. With the pound sliding away since then, say by around 20%, then that would equate to about 40K now. The cost of the 18 is 41K today so in reality it's still the same bargain it always was.

Now if we could just get rid of the 10% EU import tax on American cars it would be cheaper still. I wonder how we can do that?
It's hard to argue with your logic however the Mustang is the car for the masses, and the masses are less bothered about the pounds performance against the dollar and more concerned with increased cost of living and stagnating wages.
The masses see a car that cost from £33k landed 2 years ago to a minimum of £8k more today. I accept the product is better (for the most part) and that originally the car was a steal but its this perception Ford will have to deal with.
I wager that the MY18- will not be the success the first 550s were.
 

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Is 2-3k higher price than current model, right?
3k more than current model but with a lot more than 3k in extras included.
 

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I've gone for exactly the same apart from colour and the spoiler. I am starting to like the spoiler more and more but decided against it and will probably look for something aftermarket.
 

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I've also drove F-Type, V6S, sweet sweet handling car, just about right but not fast enough. I drove the V8 one and everytime I went near the power it just broke loose, the handling on that car was nothing short of terrible, way to short of wheelbase with a chassis that cannot handle over 400HP, let alone 500+ it would have to be an AWD model F-Type at which type I am at 911 money and the Boxster is a better drive than an F-Type let alone a 911.

Couldn't disagree with you more on the F-type v8 handling. I just did a track day at Silverstone and blitzed everything and I only own a v8 convertible with 2 wd. The traction control systems are so good it will never let go unless you drive like an idiot. If you switch off all the systems then of course it will twitch with colossal torque and 2 wd !!

The balance on the limit is sublime, the nose tucks in beautifully for a heavy weight car and it's so much fun balancing the rear end on the limit. Just watch the numerous reviews on you tube to back this up such as chris Harris's review against the 911 and aston v8.

You drove it on a track man, super smooth and Silverstone, a track surface offers up way more grip than a road with cambers, bumps. When I drove one on the road (dry) I was struggling to get the power down.

I've driven it on the road and I found the V8 was simply over powering the chassis in the dry, yes the traction systems will keep it in check but the car should not need constant TC management to keep the power down and yes I could be less heavy footed but sometimes its nice to just go wide open throttle and just shoot off like a missle and not be robbed power or have constant wheelspin.

Plus if you read most reviews they will mention how the V8 over comes the chassis on the road and how AWD would make a big difference, the AWD version came shortly afterwards and is much better. But simple fact are the 911 just hands the jag its ass every time, if I was gonna move away from the Mustang, I'd be firmly in the Porsche camp, definitely not the Jags when it comes to handling and dynamics, admittedly when the Jag does get the power down on the road its a rocket ship and sounds glorious being a V8.

I just found the V6S a sweeter car on the road and much more competent, the V8 just gives you constant TC interference or wheelspin with it off, having to manage the power deployment for me gets boring fast a well setup car will deploy its power on the road.

On a track its vastly different, track surface is grippier, tyres are warmer and stickier at which point even an F-Type V8 puts power down fine on a dry circuit, but on the road I found it more annoying hence my comment on the V6S being the sweeter handling road car. The XKR-S coupe I drove was no better, 2nd, 3rd gear just constant TC light flickering, turn TC off it was like driving an AMG, epic tyre smoke. Good looking, great sounding but too much power for chassis on the road, but yes fine on a track.

But my plan it so test drive stuff like F-Type V8, BMW M4 Competition, C63 AMG 4.0TT again as these cars are now all around 50k used with warranty to see what I think of them. Plus my test drive was a standard M4 not competition and the older 6.3l AMG, so be interesting to see how the newer revised cars compare. Finding a 911 GTS with 400+ horsepower at 50k seems near impossible, just wished Porsche offered the GT4 with PDK as I'd probably go for one of those and live of beans on toast to do so. :D

Off to Vegas in January, going to try and rent an A10 to see what I think of gear box if its still slow on paddles I could be tempted.

But right now the other two cars I'd take over Mustang which is R8 V10 S-Tronic (75K) and a 911 GT3 PDK (120K) are just way more expensive and a few years old.
 

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It's hard to argue with your logic however the Mustang is the car for the masses, and the masses are less bothered about the pounds performance against the dollar and more concerned with increased cost of living and stagnating wages..
Im not sure those who are concerned by "the cost of living and stagnating wages" will be dropping circa £40k on a 15 or 18 Mustang??
 

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Im not sure those who are concerned by "the cost of living and stagnating wages" will be dropping circa £40k on a 15 or 18 Mustang??
Granted I am a little prone to exaggeration for effect...but what i'm trying to say, much as others have, is that at £33k it was a bargain and at nearly £50k its not. The whole "ah, but its a Mustang" argument carries less weight. I get that we're getting so much more for the extra money but Ford are moving out of the car's traditional market and more towards the premium marques which unless they've improved build and reliability issues it just isn't.
It'll be a great car but if I went for it, for every issue it had I'd be thinking should I have stuck with what I had.
All that said it's only three grand more than the car it replaces and it has so much more than that in improvements so the new pricing is hardly unexpected.
Just imo.
 

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The cheapest price in 2015 for a GT was 33K. The cheapest price in 2018 for a GT is 41K. Where is this 50K coming from?
Cos' it was £34195 with all the options in red for instance for the manual...why would you spend 41k and then not get customs packs + magneride etc etc
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