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The poor soul who bought the car. Ask any engine builder about hitting the rev limiter on a new COLD engine 100 times within its first hours of operation. 25 drivers @ wot on a cold engine within two weeks. Maybe a John Deere riding lawn mower will be OK.

Fyi.. I warmed it up first. But i have to imagine there are people who will not
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I don't know every engine builder. But I do know Woody who owns Fordstrokers.com. He built the 363 stroker in my low 9 second 95GT outlaw car. The OP never said anything about hitting the rev limiter on a cold engine. You added that small detail. How ever I'm going to cut and past what the recommended break in procedure is for my race motor built by Fordstrokers. One of the most respected small block engine builders in the Ford community. See break in procedure below. And understand that any new car will be heat cycled at the factory before delivery.

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Congratulations on your recent Fordstrokers engine purchase. The topic of breaking in a new engine is very subjective and ask 10 people and you will get 8 answers. I will outline the VERY simple steps I have used for the last 15 years. It's not rocket science, it's very simple and effective.
If you are a short block purchaser WITHOUT an oil pump, oil pan, pickup installed. I can NOT stress enough how important oil pump pickup to oil pan clearance is. This clearance is the difference between life and death in a very short time. I recommend .375 to .500 clearance between the pickup and the bottom of the pan. This has worked for me for the last 15 years, but you would be surprised how many people don't even think to measure this clearance. IF the pickup is laying on the bottom of the pan, expect oil starvation very quickly.
If you purchased a short block or long block with oil pump, oil pump pickup and oil pan installed, you need not worry as we have set the pickup clearance already.
Each engine is hand assembled and we use a special teflon additive assembly lube, yes it is very sticky, very messy BUT you MUST ALWAYS prime the oil pump mechanically before starting your new engine for the first time. If you do not own an oil pump shaft priming tool, you can easily use a 1/4 inch extension with a 1/4 inch socket taped to the extension and chucked in your drill. Proceed to spin the drill counterclockwise for 15-20 seconds, rotate the engine 1/4 turn, continue to run the drill again for another 15-20 seconds and turn the engine over by hand another 1/4 turn. Do this until you have turned the engine over a full revolution AND you have oil at all pushrods.
As for the actual break in, unless you have had specific instructions from me in regards to your engine, keep it simple. Run a good oil filter. I have used an FL1A for 15 years with much success, I ALWAYS run a large magnet on the outside of the oil filter, (it obviously won't fall off ) this will keep any small particles in the filter that may have otherwise gotten by.
Again unless I have given you specific instructions, run any name brand conventional 10w30 motor oil. I always do two quick oil changes, about 75-100 miles apart, then cut the filters open to make sure there is nothing in there. After 1000-1500 miles, feel free to run any oil you are comfortable with, whether it be conventional or synthetic.
Now onto the piston rings, the way we hone nowadays and the rings we use, rings are typically seated within minutes, after a few full heat cycles, the rings are surely seated. Take precaution to minimize washing the cylinders with gas on initial startup, if all goes well on the first start, run the engine for a few heat cycles. Feel free to do a leakdown and you will see the rings have seated almost immediately. Once you are comfortable, by all means go ahead and start banging gears. If there is a problem with the engine it will rear it's ugly head quickly. I don't follow or buy into the 1000-2000 mile break in theory, I run my engines hard right from the get-go, and my engines are no different than the one I built for you.
The above guide is strictly a guide, your engine we built may not adhere to the above steps, BUT you will know this because we will talk about your specific engine and I will tell you what steps to follow, but the above guide is a good method to use and has treated me and 100's of my engine customers well.
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The factory from what I’ve read doesn’t heat cycle a engine completely. That would require several tanks of gas. Sure the casting have been cycled to a degree but not all the parts. It’s a know fact that a used engine block will be stronger then a brand new engine block $51K for a new mustang GT is amazing today.
 
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The factory from what I’ve read doesn’t hear cycle a engine. That would require several tanks of gas.
How does a heat cycle, notice it's singular, take multiple tanks of gas.

A heat cycle is literally that, taking engine/trans/tires/etc from cold, up to the optimum operating temperature, and letting it cool back down to ambient.

That's literally all it is.

The dearth of basic automotive knowledge on this forum is downright frightening.
 

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Hmm, Woody, with his it may or may not work approach, or Ferrari?

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The latest manufacturing techniques have allowed us to achieve
high precision and accuracy levels in the construction and assembly
of components. Nonetheless, the vehicle movable parts undergo a
settling process, basically during the first hours of operation.
Engine and transmission
Avoid exceeding 5,000 RPM for the first 1,000 km (620 mi).
After starting, do not exceed 4,000 RPM until the engine has
warmed up (oil temperature: 65-70 °C / 149-158 °F).
Do not let the engine run at a constantly high speed for a
prolonged time.
Sorry but I didn’t read any iron clad guarantee in the Ferrari information you just posted. Where does it guarantee the engine won’t still fail? If you follow the exact procedure listed above? You do understand this are just recommendations right? They don’t void your warranty if you don’t follow them.:shrug: But hey it’s your Ferrari or Mustang you don’t currently have. If you ever get one. You can follow their recommendations. I followed woody advice. And I have a few hundred nitrous passes on my Motor deep into the 9s without a single failure. I guess I just got lucky?
 
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How does a heat cycle, notice it's singular, take multiple tanks of gas.

A heat cycle is literally that, taking engine/trans/tires/etc from cold, up to the optimum operating temperature, and letting it cool back down to ambient.

That's literally all it is.

The dearth of basic automotive knowledge on this forum is downright frightening.
It sure is. Heat cycles reduce stress on metals. Cycles. Again older engines blocks are stronger then new ones . General rule of thumb.
 
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Hmm, Woody, with his it may or may not work approach, or Ferrari?

Running-in
The latest manufacturing techniques have allowed us to achieve
high precision and accuracy levels in the construction and assembly
of components. Nonetheless, the vehicle movable parts undergo a
settling process, basically during the first hours of operation.
Engine and transmission
Avoid exceeding 5,000 RPM for the first 1,000 km (620 mi).
After starting, do not exceed 4,000 RPM until the engine has
warmed up (oil temperature: 65-70 °C / 149-158 °F).
Do not let the engine run at a constantly high speed for a
prolonged time.
Let me guess, you think the manufacturer knows best for everything including oil weight too
 

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The factory from what I’ve read doesn’t heat cycle a engine completely. That would require several tanks of gas. Sure the casting have been cycled to a degree but not all the parts. It’s a know fact that a used engine will be stronger then a brand new engine. $51K for a new mustang GT is amazing today.
WHAT???? A heat cycle is the amount of time it takes fluids to get hot. Then shut the motor off. I think I’m going to just let this debate go. I have a feeling a few that are debating with me. Have never so much as changed their own oil.
 

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Fyi.. I warmed it up first. But i have to imagine there are people who will not
I had to cringe hard at a Carmax a few months ago when from afar I heard them start the only gt350 they had on the lot, proceed to rev the crap out of it to hear the sweet sounds, then promptly shut it off.

Even a car with few miles could have been treated badly.
 

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WHAT???? A heat cycle is the amount of time it takes fluids to get hot. Then shut the motor off. I think I’m going to just let this debate go. I have a feeling a few that are debating with me. Have never so much as changed their own oil.
Heat cycles is what makes metals stronger over a period of time. A short period but never the less many cycles will strengthen the metal. All metals used in auto manufacturers. However aluminum block can’t take the higher heat then a iron block can. Overheating a aluminum block is a major concern with auto manufacturers. That’s why high performance engines today have engine oil coolers for the aluminum block engines.
 
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Sooooooo The 500 mike break in period recommended by Ford or Ferrari is to make the metal stronger your saying?
 

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Fair enough. It's straight out of the 18's Owner Manual and it's advice I will follow. Perhaps you could let Ford know that their procedure is complete and utter shit.
Just ask these experts if they will pay for your repairs when you ignore Ford's advice and follow theirs.
 

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I don’t know why people buy these type of cars? Ownership scares the bejesus out of them. The experts don’t need to pay for sh!t. The WARRANTY pays if something breaks! Would you rather find out the engine is defective now? Or wait til you put a cold air intake on it and Ford declines your repair. A year after you bought it? As a former EB owner you should understand this better than anyone!:doh:
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