stang17
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Just had my stock clutch swapped out last week after only 6,300 miles with an Exedy Mach 600 cushion button clutch, Exedy lightened flywheel, stainless clutch line, Exedy throwout bearing, and MGW shifter while the tranny was out. Stock clutch looked brand new, no glazing. There was tiger striping on the flywheel as expected. Reason for replacing the clutch was due to fact that the pressure plate wasn't holding the power consistently above 6,500 rpm. Car only had about 6,300 miles on it.
Picked the car up from the dealer and experienced first gear lock out. I have never had a lockout issue prior to this with the stock clutch or shifter.
Specifically, the 1st gear lockout would happen when I was in 2nd gear, coasting to a stop, clutch in-shift to neutral, foot off clutch, come to complete stop. Press clutch in, go to shift into first, but would not want to go in. I'd bring the shifter back to neutral, pump the clutch, try first but still get locked out. I would then clutch in, shift into 2nd, then be able to shift into first and start moving forward.
Car continued to do this sporadically for a few days, most often in the first few driving miles after start up. I called George over at MGW and was advised to check the lock-out. I proceeded to go back to dealer last Friday, watched the MGW lock-out video together, and witnessed them first hand go through the lock-out procedure. They even used a vacuum tool to ensure the clutch line was completely air free. Shifter seemed fine.
Drove the car home and no issues for a few days. Yesterday, I'm driving out of the parking lot at work and come to the first red light. Go to shift into first and it goes about halfway into first, stops, than the shifter starts to vibrate violently back and forth like a a meth-head shaking a bobble head doll (all while clutch is still engaged), I back it into neutral, release clutch, press clutch back in, try to shift into first but still locked out. Bring shifter back to neutral, pump clutch again, this time shift into 2nd then up to first, and now able to get into gear and start accelerating.
So to recap, this issue never once happened to me with the stock clutch and shifter. Only after the addition of the new clutch, clutch line, and MGW shifter has this issue has started. After speaking with MGW several times, I'm confident it is not a shifter issue. I have about 200 miles on the new clutch and it seems rock solid. I personally witnessed the dealer bleed out the clutch line, so I know it can't be an air issue. My only thought is that maybe the transmission got preloaded to one side when completing the clutch install and this is what is contributing to the lockout. I just find it odd that when you pump the clutch a few times and shift into 2nd, it corrects the lockout issue.
Can anyone comment if having preload in the transmission could be a potential cause of why this lockout sporadically happens, and more so within the first mile or so of driving after start up. Almost seems like once enough heats gets into the drivetrain, the problem resolves. It seems like maybe the transmission isn't completely lined up and when pumping the clutch, it shifts the transmission slightly to where it goes back into alignment and corrects the lock-out problem; and once enough heat is the system, the metal is more pliable or something.
I plan on going back to dealer today after work to see what they think. :shrug:
Picked the car up from the dealer and experienced first gear lock out. I have never had a lockout issue prior to this with the stock clutch or shifter.
Specifically, the 1st gear lockout would happen when I was in 2nd gear, coasting to a stop, clutch in-shift to neutral, foot off clutch, come to complete stop. Press clutch in, go to shift into first, but would not want to go in. I'd bring the shifter back to neutral, pump the clutch, try first but still get locked out. I would then clutch in, shift into 2nd, then be able to shift into first and start moving forward.
Car continued to do this sporadically for a few days, most often in the first few driving miles after start up. I called George over at MGW and was advised to check the lock-out. I proceeded to go back to dealer last Friday, watched the MGW lock-out video together, and witnessed them first hand go through the lock-out procedure. They even used a vacuum tool to ensure the clutch line was completely air free. Shifter seemed fine.
Drove the car home and no issues for a few days. Yesterday, I'm driving out of the parking lot at work and come to the first red light. Go to shift into first and it goes about halfway into first, stops, than the shifter starts to vibrate violently back and forth like a a meth-head shaking a bobble head doll (all while clutch is still engaged), I back it into neutral, release clutch, press clutch back in, try to shift into first but still locked out. Bring shifter back to neutral, pump clutch again, this time shift into 2nd then up to first, and now able to get into gear and start accelerating.
So to recap, this issue never once happened to me with the stock clutch and shifter. Only after the addition of the new clutch, clutch line, and MGW shifter has this issue has started. After speaking with MGW several times, I'm confident it is not a shifter issue. I have about 200 miles on the new clutch and it seems rock solid. I personally witnessed the dealer bleed out the clutch line, so I know it can't be an air issue. My only thought is that maybe the transmission got preloaded to one side when completing the clutch install and this is what is contributing to the lockout. I just find it odd that when you pump the clutch a few times and shift into 2nd, it corrects the lockout issue.
Can anyone comment if having preload in the transmission could be a potential cause of why this lockout sporadically happens, and more so within the first mile or so of driving after start up. Almost seems like once enough heats gets into the drivetrain, the problem resolves. It seems like maybe the transmission isn't completely lined up and when pumping the clutch, it shifts the transmission slightly to where it goes back into alignment and corrects the lock-out problem; and once enough heat is the system, the metal is more pliable or something.
I plan on going back to dealer today after work to see what they think. :shrug:
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