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That's why there is so much push back on the '18 here. Many of us spent in the $28k-$32k range for our GTs. I have seen people get a '17 GT PP for $29k.

The problem is, Ford spoiled us. We all got incredible deals on our cars. Now, Ford has decided that they want a little more profit on the Mustang, and have taken actions to accomplish this. The '18 GTs are absolutely worth the money, but it certainly is sticker shock for us '15-'17 owners.
I see your point, but really, how much of an increase in price is the 2018 BEFORE adding options? I think I read that the increase is about $2000; however, there are more options to add now and those options also have increases in price. From the dealer orders I've seen, like always the dealerships will have fully loaded Mustangs on their lots because they think that is what people want and because they can make a higher profit off of highly optioned cars. That's why anyone considering a 2018 should really consider what exactly they want and order a car. I never buy a car off the lot because they always have junk I don't need or really want. Just have to wait a couple months to get it.

Premium, don't need it. Ford leather is meh
Enhanced safety package, don't need it. Car is plenty safe with air bags, seat belts, etc.
Enhanced security package, don't need it. Ignition is locked out anyway with the standard security system.
BLIS, nah, car has mirrors and windows to look out of...
Magneride, ok cool, but don't particularly want it especially since I plan to lower the car.
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I priced a 2018 comparable to my 2017 GT Premium Convertible the difference equals a 2.2% MSRP increase! Not bad given some of the feature and performance upgrades.
 

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Pretty much. I'm at just barely $42k with my options (401A, active exhaust, security, shaker pro). Doesn't really scream 'omg overpriced'.

I think most people at this board just expect to get everything they want (PP, magneride) with all of the luxury shit and act surprised that it's super expensive. Uh yea, that's a fully loaded car.
Concur! My plan is similar to yours.

Base GT, 301A, active exhaust, PP1 or PP2 depending. $42,885 or $44k for the PP2. PP1 because I want the 3:73 rear end, chassis braces, etc. PP2 should be interesting. I'm waiting to know more.

I'll spend another 4 grand on springs, dampers, wheels and tires. Still under $50k for a great car slightly customized.

you could save more $$ if you nixed the security system and shaker pro. You could always go aftermarket for those things.
 

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I see your point, but really, how much of an increase in price is the 2018 BEFORE adding options? I think I read that the increase is about $2000.
This is correct, base GT price increase is about $2K, and the premium with no other options is also about a $2K price increase. I like to break it down into percentages, and 2K is a little under 6% (5.7%). The PP increase is a whopping 33%, or when added to the price of a vehicle comes to an overall increase of about $3K or just under 8%.

Inflation is almost zero, so an 8% price increase for a facelift is a lot. This isn't a new platform. In fact, even if it was it is not guaranteed that just because a car is a total redesign on a new platform the price is going to jump that much.

A M235-M240 went up about a grand, including a small HP bump. The 9th - 10th gen Civic had almost zero (few hundred bucks) price change. That's not uncommon, and virtually all makes/models come with additional technology standard.
 

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Lets face it there are more options available for the 18 than any Mustang ever, those options are not free but if I want a base mustang GT premium with some decent options it still isnt a bad deal compared to whats out there. Ill say it again most people will never track their car, and even if you have a 17 GT premium and modified it, exhaust, wheels, whatever you probably have 40K into it anyway.
 

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Inflation on what? Just because your favorite bank pays 0.001% APY on savings doesn't mean inflation is almost zero.
I get my inflation rates from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. Their website is a little difficult to navigate so I usually go to a third party that has parsed the data. In any case, CPI has been "what we doctors call very, very, small" for several years.

By almost zero, I mean sub 2%. If you just do a search for "US inflation rate by year" google will answer you.

CPI United States 2016 1.26 %
CPI United States 2015 0.12 %
CPI United States 2014 1.62 %
CPI United States 2013 1.47 %
 

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Premium, don't need it. Ford leather is meh
Enhanced safety package, don't need it. Car is plenty safe with air bags, seat belts, etc.
Enhanced security package, don't need it. Ignition is locked out anyway with the standard security system.
BLIS, nah, car has mirrors and windows to look out of...
Magneride, ok cool, but don't particularly want it especially since I plan to lower the car.
The only option I think is a must is the PP. Unfortunately, that went up $1000 as well. It does come with better tires than before though, so you at least get something extra for that $1000.
 

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The only option I think is a must is the PP. Unfortunately, that went up $1000 as well. It does come with better tires than before though, so you at least get something extra for that $1000.

lol ... thats the one option I didn't want. I hate Black rims and I didn't want Summer Tires and I didn't want 3.73 gears. I'd like better brakes but honestly, the brakes on mine are really good so I'm cool with it. Stiffer suspension would be cool but not a deal breaker for me as I think mine rides nice the way it is. I think of my car as a luxury car with a big ass motor.

But we all roll differently and I get why many like the PP option but holy crap It's $4k now :headbonk:
 

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lol ... thats the one option I didn't want. I hate Black rims and I didn't want Summer Tires and I didn't want 3.73 gears. I'd like better brakes but honestly, the brakes on mine are really good so I'm cool with it. Stiffer suspension would be cool but not a deal breaker for me as I think mine rides nice the way it is. I think of my car as a luxury car with a big ass motor.

But we all roll differently and I get why many like the PP option but holy crap It's $4k now :headbonk:
Yeah, I'll concede that $4k is a lot for what you get. You get black slightly wider wheels with still cheesy offsets, big fender gaps, some "unique" chassis tuning, a couple braces, a big spoiler, brembos, and 3:73s... they could at least include the active exhaust, recaros, better springs with slightly lowered ride height, or even offer some stripes.

Chevy includes a ton of stuff in their package including recaros, active exhaust, lowered ride height, faux suede, 20" wheels with decent offsets, additional coolers, and a million graphics options.

Hoping PP2 has more bang for the buck but not too confident that it will.
 

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Yeah, I'll concede that $4k is a lot for what you get. You get black slightly wider wheels with still cheesy offsets, big fender gaps, some "unique" chassis tuning, a couple braces, a big spoiler, brembos, and 3:73s... they could at least include the active exhaust, recaros, better springs with slightly lowered ride height, or even offer some stripes.

Chevy includes a ton of stuff in their package including recaros, active exhaust, lowered ride height, faux suede, 20" wheels with decent offsets, additional coolers, and a million graphics options.

Hoping PP2 has more bang for the buck but not too confident that it will.
You also get different aero, better shocks and struts, bigger radiator, better tires and a torsen rear differential.

It was a deal at $2500 for my 2016. $4k is quite a bit too much.
 

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If you in any way plan to change anything on the suspension, getting the PP is pointless.

You can get the brembo's for 1200 on their own.

I've road raced my base GT and never came close to over loading the stock radiator. Aftermarket is better anyway.

You can get the K brace and strut tower brace for cheap.

I'd get the base GT, black appearance package, spoiler delete, Sync 3 package and adjustable exhaust. I think in all it'd total 39k MSRP. That's 12k more than I paid for my 15 Auto. Considering how quickly stangs drop in value, it's hard to justify especially with the derpy front end. I'd have to factor in and hope the aftermarket has a better looking front bumper in the works.

Move to the premium and add the cool digital cluster and I'm looking at 44k. No thanks. Not for a Mustang. That's getting into better car territory.
 

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I forgot about that spoiler that comes on the '18 PP. It looks terrible, IMO. Thankfully you can get a spoiler delete but that doesn't lower the $4000 price of the PP.
 

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If you account for 3% inflation a 40k Car purchased in 2015 would cost $42550.46 in 2017

Base GT had a ton of new additions as well as the ability to get sync 3 without have to go premium. Those additions are worth the bump in my mind and the bump is no where near “Overpriced”. Take inflation into account and it’s, no question, a good bang for the buck.

People comparing the 2018 price to the price they paid for theirs is ridiculous as most of those people bought a 17 (or their model year) at the end of its cycle when it’s signicantly discounted. Buy an 18 this time next year and you can get a GT PP with Mag OTD for low 30’s as well, but by that time people will be complaining the 2019 is “horribly overpriced” and the 18 is such a better deal.

It blows my mind that someone would look at the $60k Mustang and think that’s representative of the entire line. If you want to visit New York and see a hotel room for $1k a night, you don’t cancel the trip because going to New York is too expensive. You just find the cheaper option and enjoy the trip with less amenities.
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