2015 GT still $35K?

[Charles147]

I understand what you are saying, dude! I will stick by what I said and say it again. That mentality is disgusting and is bad for business.

Example:Lets say a young athlete that can afford a Ferrari goes to the dealership. The salesman doesn't know who he is and denies him a test drive or barely pays him any mind. Do you think that athlete, that makes millions, is ever going to buy a car from them ever? I know I wouldn't.

Once again I know and understand what you are trying to say, but it is bad business!

And I stick to what I'm saying. VICE VERSA! Allowing anyone that cant afford a car to test drive is bad for business as well. You are stuck on this age thing. I'm talking $$$$ and age into play. Unfortunately (specifically you) cannot get past or understand that most young adults cant pony up the money and is why age is in play with the argument. Why should ALL young or any aged folks be able to test drive a car they cant afford? How is that better for a business? I certainly don't want to arrive at a dealership filled up like a shopping mall (ALL AGES) with window shoppers and I end up waiting for a test drive or service because everyone under the sun should be allowed a darn test drive!

I'll go eat my misery now...LOL!

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[Charles147]

I bought my '14 when I was 24. I have been in the military some time now and am happily married with no kids, so I have the means to enjoy a GT for a DD. I had a '99 Vette that I was selling in order to purchase the '14. Despite evening rolling up in the Corvette for an appointment I arranged over the phone to see a GT in person, about 75% of the salesmen changed their attitude to nearly demeaning once they saw my appearance and about half of those were "too busy" to get a car for me to drive.

On one occasion, a younger salesmen that I had arranged a meeting with never changed his attitude after meeting me in person and the first thing he did was throw me the keys and tell me how to turn the traction control off. I bought the car on the spot after an easy 5 mile test drive as I had the check from the bank in my pocket at each dealership I went to. When I told him my experience at other Ford dealerships, he told me a story about a man in dirty work clothes checking out the new F250's. Evidently none of the other salesmen wanted to bite, so my guy went out to see how he could help. I guess the guy owned a huge landscaping company and went to several dealerships to see if anyone would pay him mind dressed like a bum. He purchased 10 trucks that day.

Sucks man! My take away with this is that I hope one day people realize profiling is not by just color. Age, clothing, and demeanor come into play and I think sometimes not ALL the time gets skewed to color only and that is not always the case.

 

[Jq42]

And I stick to what I'm saying. VICE VERSA! Allowing anyone that cant afford a car to test drive is bad for business as well. You are stuck on this age thing. I'm talking $$$$ and age into play. Unfortunately (specifically you) cannot get past or understand that most young adults cant pony up the money and is why age is in play with the argument. Why should ALL young or any aged folks be able to test drive a car they cant afford? How is that better for a business? I certainly don't want to arrive at a dealership filled up like a shopping mall (ALL AGES) with window shoppers and I end up waiting for a test drive or service because everyone under the sun should be allowed a darn test drive!

I'll go eat my misery now...LOL!

How do you know if they can or cannot afford it?

 

[Charles147]

How do you know if they can or cannot afford it?

most dealerships not all ask for license and info before they throw you the keys. Safe to assume they have a good idea if you can afford it. Of course there are exceptions. If you are 20 years old, arrive with Mom or Pops is a game changer. They have a good idea on who is the co-signer.

 

[Jq42]

most dealerships not all ask for license and info before they throw you the keys. Safe to assume they have a good idea if you can afford it. Of course there are exceptions. If you are 20 years old, arrive with Mom or Pops is a game changer. They have a good idea on who is the co-signer.

Ok, that's a better way to justify if they can afford something. But what if they don't ask? PS... My wife and I live in a very nice area and they would have seen that on my license.

Ok, I am not responding anymore.

 

[Charles147]

Ok, that's a better way to justify if they can afford something. But what if they don't ask? PS... My wife and I live in a very nice area and they would have seen that on my license.

Ok, I am not responding anymore.

If they don't ask = Bad for the business owner and public safety. Should be a standard practice period!

 

[K-Roll302]

I test drove a brand new 2016 GT PP Premium with my dad from my favorite dealer a couple months ago. We've gotten a few cars from them for many years. They knew I would be ordering a EB soon, but they didn't have a manual EB on the lot. So the manual PP GT it was for me!!

AND I'M 20. A 20 year old that looks 18! Sure, my dad was with me, but they would've handed me the keys anyways if he wasn't there. they asked for both our licenses. Some dealers are just ignorant it seems. But you're right, Charles. Having your parents with you definitely changes their outlook, or just someone who looks more "adult" than you. As ignorant as it is.

 

[Mike A.]

I got a better discount on my 15 GT Premium w/ performance pack etc when the 15 was still the current model year....

 

[Zodiac]

I got a better discount on my 15 GT Premium w/ performance pack etc when the 15 was still the current model year....

This!

 

[HGFireHazard]

I understand the sentiment Charles is going with. In actuality he's right; the majority of people in their 20's can't afford a GT.

The perspective I go with on the matter of treatment by salesmen is the memory factor. That may be more because of how I am individually, but I remember how people treat me.

Story. I was a junior in college and was ready and able to upgrade from a 1998 Saturn SL2 (I loved that little ricer ) to something with more creature comforts. I was looking at lower tier Civic's. To note, I had been working non stop since I was 15 years old. At the time my credit rating was in the realm of 760 and I had about $10k to use as down payment. After about 2.5 hours I managed to talk him down about $250 from MSRP. I was aiming $3k down. It was infuriating and insulting. He told me he could sell them all day long at MSRP and didn't have to come down to make a sale for me. I walked.

Later that same week I went into my local Ford dealer and priced out a loaded Focus SES manual. $19,9xx MSRP. Got it out the door for $17,2xx and ordered it custom.

I got a call from that dealership a month later asking about my experience and if I wanted to come back in. I briefly explaining my disgust, that I ordered a competitor's vehicle and will never consider a Honda for the rest of my life. I'm a stubborn prick like that sometimes.

Honda will never see a purchase from me. Ever. Is everyone like me? No. That behavior though will cost you sales. I get that tire kickers exist but I believe you can earn more customers by treating everyone like a potential buyer instead of the opposite.

TD;DR: Treat everyone like a potential buyer or else you might alienate future sales.

 

[Chad11491]

I completely understand the young thing. I bought my GT at 24. I used to work at Kroger (as well as working at an airplane hangar restoring old planes) in college and the sales manager used to come shop with us all the time. i bought a brz after graduating but last year I decided i wanted to cut to the chase and get what I've always wanted. A v8 mustang. So I go to my local ford dealership, which he worked at, and he noticed me and I asked to see any mustangs on the lot with a v8 and a stick and I kid you not, the first words out of his mouth were "didn't you work at Kroger?" I got zero help after that. No one had The time of day for me. I went and bought my gt at the dealership near my workplace the next day. It's frustrating the lack of common respect people have just based on appearances or perception.

 

[Sinister]

Ok, that's a better way to justify if they can afford something. But what if they don't ask? PS... My wife and I live in a very nice area and they would have seen that on my license.

Ok, I am not responding anymore.

It's not even where you live. They can run your credit with just your driver's license, and often do.

 

[Falcon01]

They are funny about GT's. Maybe it's a Ford corp thing?

I got a test drive but they refused to let me go without the sales rep. I was 38 years old and a Cop in the city I bought the car in and they knew both details... That's ok.. I made him sit in back and he was 6'4. My son rode shotgun.:clap2:

Haha. That's awesome about making him sit in the back. I made the guy sit in the back when I test drove a 2016 ecoboost with my dad.

Dealerships didn't even let me test drive an ecoboost, also likely because of my age. I think it's just they don't want teenagers or early twenties guys that can't afford the car to put miles in it and waste their time.

 

[16 GT MM/Auto]

LOL

ROFL

 

[beerformeplz]

If I could be 20 again I would gladly take that problem. Lol

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