Question about shifting from 1st to 2nd gear

[omelet1978]

Hi,

I've got limited experience with driving a manual. When I shift from 1st to 2nd at low speed if I get off the clutch fast the car kind of lurches forward. I've started to do a more gradual letting off the clutch.

I'm just checking to see if that is normal. The previous truck I drove that was a manual did not do this...but again I'm not experienced with manuals.

Thanks

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[ForTehNguyen]

need to rev match during shifts, the lurch you are feeling is engine braking. You can accomplish this even better by removing the clutch spring to get more accurate clutch feel

 

[LETHAL]

As you get more experience, it will get easier.

 

[OracleHCR]

All it takes is practice. Let off the accelerator, push in the clutch, slide it into gear, let off the clutch while you slowly press the accelerator. Nice and smooth. There is no reason to let off the clutch too fast. It is the high revs of the motor causing you to lurch. Don't ride the clutch, but don't pop it either.
People say to remove the clutch spring but I've read several places that this will do harm down the road unless you replace it with another spring.

 

[Bartly]

As you get more experience, it will get easier.

X2 on this. Been maybe two months on my Mustang (spent the last 14 years in a stick Jeep Wrangler) and I had/have the problem. I've been getting much better at it now. Problem is I keep jumping back in the jeep on bad weather days, and the next time in the Mustang and I'm back to the square 1. Each time the learning curve decreases. Can't wait for lots of good weather so I can stop switching back and forth.


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[LETHAL]

All it takes is practice. Let off the accelerator, push in the clutch, slide it into gear, let off the clutch while you slowly press the accelerator. Nice and smooth. There is no reason to let off the clutch too fast. It is the high revs of the motor causing you to lurch. Don't ride the clutch, but don't pop it either.
People say to remove the clutch spring but I've read several places that this will do harm down the road unless you replace it with another spring.

yes, for $10.00, get the STEEDA spring and save your clutch.

 

[JM7225]

yes, for $10.00, get the STEEDA spring and save your clutch.

Can you explain why not having a clutch spring kills your clutch?

 

[GoBlues38]

i usually skip second. When just tooling around. I will hit a bout 3k in 1st, then go to 3rd, then 4th, then 6th.

 

[jasonstang]

First to second you either wait till the rpm drop to the exact rpm the 2nd gear is going to be or slightly slip the clutch a bit for a smoother engagement.

 

[brandonsmash]

Hell, I've owned/driven manual transmissions for a long, long time and the Mustang still bites me sometimes. The clutch itself is fine, the engine has plenty of torque, etc. but the clutch engagement point is so damn high up that it can make modulating it difficult -- and there's apparently no adjustment solution.

 

[OracleHCR]

Can you explain why not having a clutch spring kills your clutch?

The spring holds the clutch pedal up so it is fully disengaged. If you remove the spring it is like you are riding around barely resting your foot on the clutch like you are riding the clutch.
If you have removed the spring, next time you are driving around, push up on the clutch pedal from the bottom. You'll be able to feel the play in the pedal.

 

[JM7225]

The spring holds the clutch pedal up so it is fully disengaged. If you remove the spring it is like you are riding around barely resting your foot on the clutch like you are riding the clutch.
If you have removed the spring, next time you are driving around, push up on the clutch pedal from the bottom. You'll be able to feel the play in the pedal.

That makes sense, but for premature clutch wear you're saying that not having a spring isn't fully disengaging it AND my clutch is slipping ALL the time, no?

 

[OracleHCR]

Basically. It gets worse over time and without a spring, the pedal will eventually put more and more pressure on the clutch.

 

[LETHAL]

Thanks for the back up Oracle.

 

[JM7225]

Thanks for the back up Oracle.

I'm not trying to disprove anyone, just curious about this since I took my spring out. Thanks for the info.

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